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Just when you think you have seen it all - I must share one you have NOT seen yet. Emphasis on YET???

As we forge ahead and architect these awesome solutions using MOSS - I suspect it is fairly easy to become enamored of some basics - you know, the little details that are the life-blood of your solution. :) Like I said - basics.

Basic 1) WSS is a life-blood underpinning of MOSS.

Basic 2) Without basic 1, there will be no basic 2 !!!

 

Today I experienced absolute bliss - from a MOSS perspective :)

 

I am working on an RTM upgrade. The basics are: I have a staging server - beta bits. I create a web application here, then restore a content database in SQL, and add that content database to the newly created web application. Finally, I'll upgrade this to RTM.

 

After a few days of tedious work - I'm flying along and everything is grand. Almost.

 

This morning I create a new web application. I open Central Admin, Application Management --> Create, etc. etc. etc. It creates the web app and returns to the screen where I can create the site collection. Here I navigate back to the Application Management --> Content Databases and I add my existing content database. I noticed something string... The content database added fine - but had zero sites in it. MMmmm I've seen this before. Usually you will notice this if you try to add a content database from 1) a different version of SQL Server, and sometimes 2) when you restore a content database ad add it to a web application with a different name than the original web application. But neither was the case here.

I worked through this exercise 4 or 5 times - thinking surely something simple is being overlooked.

Finally, I fire up another staging server - completely different setup - and start to work on this virtual machine. I see the same exact behavior!!!

Time for a coffee refill. Definitely weird. I had already built out 4 virtual machines and worked through this exercise for 3 days - nothing at all was different. Or so I thought.

Coming back from my cafine fix - I fire up Central Admin and notice right away something strange next to the serverName on the Home tab - there was no WSS service running. MMmmm - I built this out from scratch, setup MOSS, Central Admin site, services, etc. - and saved the staged image - simply to re-use several times. How did the WSS get stopped? Well, that is another issue - but when I started the WSS service - all worked perfectly - just like it should.

 

As an exercise - I stopped the WSS and stepped through the same things I was doing earlier - and sure enough, you can create a web application - and it does not log an iota of an issue - and all appears to be fine - except it never gets created.The really frustrating part is that no error gets logged stating something like, 'Hey dummy, you might want to start WSS before you try this', or 'ID10T to the max' - you know what I mean.

Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 9:05 PM Microsoft Office SharePoint Server 2007 (MOSS) | Back to top


Comments on this post: MOSS 2007 / WSS v3. - A Marriage and Chemistry that Deserves Attention!!!

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Can you add a "Backed up" copy of your content database as an additional content database to restore deleted sites from?
Left by Rodney on Apr 02, 2007 3:30 PM

# re: MOSS 2007 / WSS v3. - A Marriage and Chemistry that Deserves Attention!!!
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Hi Rodney,

Very good question, and I can appreciate what you are thinking.

In a word - no, you cannot do something that straight-forward. It never is that easy or simplified.

What you 'can' do however, is restore it to a different web application/site collection, and write a class that enumerates through the sites and provides you a UI of the sites found, and then you select the sites to restore - and have your class re-provision those sites in the new web application/site collection. This would be the only way I know to accomplish this - clean.

HTH's...
Left by MikeH on Apr 02, 2007 3:48 PM

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Hi Mike:

I noticed you mentioned that you have seen issues where not sites are shown in central admin after a restore to an application with a different name than the original. How do you fix that issue? I'm having that very issue now.

Thanks.
Left by Nigel on Jun 29, 2007 9:34 PM

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owever, is restore it to a different web application/site collection, and write a class that enumerates through the sites and provides you a UI of the sites found, and then you select
Left by Oakley Half Jacket XLJ Polarized on Mar 04, 2011 2:05 AM

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Left by Tony on Apr 02, 2011 5:03 PM

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