Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

Upon hearing rumors that Toshiba put a 2.5 GHz Pentium 4 CPU and a gig of PC2700 DDR RAM in their new $500 high definition set-top DVD player, I was intrigued.  When I heard that they also put in a standard desktop HD-DVD reader, I had to buy one and see if these wild accusations were true.  So I called around and found that just about the last one available in Phoenix was to be had at a Best Buy on the edge of town.  $560 later it was mine, and on its way to the surgery table for close inspection.

I quickly cracked open the box and without even taking time to plug it into a high def set conveniently located only 20 feet away, started taking it apart to see what was under the hood.  Soon a friend of mine, Scott Cate, came over, screwdriver in-hand, to help out.  We found out that sure enough, all the rumors were true.

Here's complete video coverage of the irreverent dismantling:

Click to see the 6 minute video of us taking apart the HD-A1! (20 meg WMV)

The HD-DVD drive we pulled out of the thing has a standard 40-pin IDE interface, and when connected to an XP machine identifies itself as “_NEC HDDVD HR1100A“, which is a recently-released HD-DVD reader that also reads normal DVDs and CDs.

When I put a HD-DVD movie in to try to see what's on the disc it just says “D:\ is not accessible.  Incorrect function.“.  Even under Vista Beta 1 same story.  Perhaps a later beta will have a driver and allow us to see what's on these HD-DVD discs.  Is it still VOB-ified or now something different under the new AACS copy protection?  Or perhaps the new protection restricts you from even reading any data at all!  Wouldn't that be a kicker.

At the very end of the video I got a little curious about the daughter card stuck on the motherboard, and pry it up for a closer look. Definitely that's where some interesting file system discoveries are to be found:

Overall it looks like it may be easier to get at the actual data than I had originally thought. The card is apparently a USB 2.0 device made by "M-Systems", and should be able to attach directly to a normal PC and act as a 256 meg flash disk.

The code on the M-Systems controller chip is "DOK T5" which stands for "Disk on key, 5th generation". It has a USB 2.0 interface. J101 on the bottom of the card looks just like a 9-pin motherboard-style USB connection, and once connected would probably be recognized as a USB flash drive.  (Sure enough it is, and this post gives the details!)

An idea: Wouldn't it be cool to put whatever is in this USB key on a USB-connected hard drive instead, and then see if the unit will boot and run that way?  That's probably how they tested the thing during later phases of development when the AACS code was getting its kinks worked out.  Note that there's a covered opening seen in the case next to where a USB connector was probably placed, and that opening would now make it very easy to run a cable into the unit and have a true USB connection hanging off the back side of this thing. Perhaps I'll connect a hub to it and try attaching a keyboard and mouse and see what happens.

Here's a forum post from a Danish guy who also cracked open his HD-A1.

Lots of fun experimentation to be done here.  Well worth the price of admission.  But honestly I'm still holding out for what the Blu-Ray camp has to offer because HD-DVD maxes out at only 30 gigs using its upper limit of 2 layers, and at 2 layers Blu-Ray is just getting started, offering 50 gigs of storage.  100 gigs is not too far away on the horizon in their 4-layer version, and in their back room a couple years ago they had tested up to 8 layers for 200 gigs on a disc.  Would be interesting to know how far they are now with experimental versions of Blu-Ray.  Now if Sony would only be wise and price the first players at $500 rathar than $900 then I think they would win hands-down in this new format war. At least they will be rolling one into every forthcoming PS3 which will be priced around $500.

UPDATE 1: I was able to successfully connect the flash disk to XP and analyze the individual sectors.  In the process I discovered that internally the unit runs on Red Hat.  It looks like it was originally formatted as FAT32, and then repartitioned with ext2fs.

I was able to get access to another HD-DVD player, and after reading the image on its flash disk it's different in a couple places.  Also when trying to put the daughter card from my unit in this other player it would reference the disk for a little while, but then halt partway through the boot process.  So it looks like there's probably a serial number stored in the firmware, and a check performed during boot to make sure it's the right firmware for that specific unit by serial number.

UPDATE 2: I had a little more time to take a deeper look into the firmware, and found some additional tidbits.

UPDATE 3: There was a question sent in about the video and audio decoding chips, and I did some research and posted a little video talking about them.

Much thanks to the 40,000 people who have strolled by to take a look at this post.  Hope you enjoyed your stay.  I'm very thankful for these sites which each featured this post on their front page:
http://engadget.com
http://neowin.net
http://gizmodo.com
http://i4u.com/
http://hdbeat.com/
http://pcinpact.com
http://dynamik.info/ (in the LinkXchange portion)
http://gadgets.qj.net/
http://hackers-news.blogspot.com/
http://hackinthebox.org
http://cdfreaks.com

Also thanks to sites around the world that have written quick little articles about me.  I can't read what you've written, but thanks for hanging a link out there over to me!  Here's an example in either Czech or Slovak: http://dsl.sk/article.php?article=1763  Groovy!  (Thanks to Propediotika and SeeJey for pointing out that the foreign language site is probably Slovak, and not Russian.)

Also thanks to C-Net for posting the video.  My hoster is groaning to try to keep up with all the traffic!

Finally, thanks to Daniel Eber for setting up a bittorrent of the video:
http://thepiratebay.org/details.php?id=3474379


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# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

Unfortunately Blu-Ray will only offer single layer discs using MPEG2 codec vs HD-DVD dual-layer using VC-1 in the beginning. That means a long wait before MPEG4 level codec and dual-layer is used on Blu-Ray. It is very possible for studios to just compress the movie once for both HD-DVD dual layer (30 GB) and Blu-Ray single layer (25 GB) to save money and time. 4/21/2006 9:12 AM | Jim Wu

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

Wow. That is truly amazing stuff you wrote there. Thanks for the info!

-Andy

4/21/2006 9:54 AM | Andy Hodges

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

Great post! The video presentation was excellent - I will definitely linking to both the post and the video as I do further followup reports on HD-DVD.

Robert Silva
About.com Guide for Home Theater

About.com is a part of the New York Times Company 4/21/2006 3:25 PM | Robert Silva

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

i created a torrent of the video file snce the server appears to be going slowly. It can be found here:
http://thepiratebay.org/details.php?id=3474379 4/22/2006 9:17 AM | Daniel Eber

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

Site www.dsl.sk is not russian. It is site from Slovak Republic ;-) 4/23/2006 11:51 AM | SeeJey

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

I'm the "Danish" guy that cracked open my HD-A1.

While I was born in Denmark and speak the language, I have lived in the US for the last 20 years and it must be pure coincidence that my pictures ended up on that Danish forum. Too funny!

I'll have to try connecting that flash drive to a USB port when I get off work!

Peter 4/24/2006 3:44 AM | Peter

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

The link www.dsl.sk ends with .sk that means this site is from slovakia not from russia. 4/24/2006 7:59 AM | Propediotika

# hd-dvd reader in pc - to - disk image

So you hooked the drive up to your pc and it said the disk is unreadable, this is normal. I have been authoring hd-dvd disks on dvd-r that play in the toshiba just fine. however, I can take the .iso image of that disk and drop it onto MPC, mediaplayer classic, or VLC Videolan client and it plays the video just fine on my pc. I can take a burnt dvd-r and image it with dvd-decryptor into an .iso and it works just fine. have you tried to make an .iso image of your hd-dvd disk with dvddecryptor or maybe Nero? and then see if that iso image can be dropped on mpc and played?
4/24/2006 10:33 AM | digital man

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

the first HD DVDs available do also offer only mpeg2 encodings not vc-1... 4/24/2006 7:33 PM | chris

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

Um..no.. the first HD DVD movies are NOT using MPEG2! Please stop the BS! 4/25/2006 7:55 PM | Dug

# re: Toshiba's new HD DVD player - Videos are compressed with VC-1

True, no MPEG2. All HD-DVD movies released so far that I've seen are on single-layer discs (so no more than 15 gigs of actual content), and according to news sources are all compressed with VC-1, not MPEG-2. An earlier news article about movies being prepared for release had mentioned that they would initially be compressed MPEG-2 so that quality would be better. But that doesn't look to be the case. VC-1 can have similar quality when done right, and the discs I've watched are truly great. Very little mosquito noise, in high-motion scenes almost never a macroblock artefact, etc. Probably due to macroblocks being variable size in the new codec. (4x4, 8x8, or 16x16 if I remember right.) 4/29/2006 5:46 AM | Lorin

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

Lorin,could you share your image dump from hd-a1? :D

i have a hd-1100a sample ,and want to have a test.

thx!

nightmare_ym@hotmail.com
5/3/2006 2:41 AM | nm

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

Oh, stop the fud.

Bluray supports VC1, MPEG4 and H264 from the outset. Some studios (notably Sony) will release Bluray movies in MPEG2 format, largely because their MPEG2 encoding solutions are mature and trustworthy. There's absolutely nothing stopping a studio from releasing a MPEG4/VC1/H264 encoded Bluray disc from launch.

Additionally, Dual layer Bluray discs are in manufacturing already and dual layer [50GB] blanks will be readily available from the second half of this year. It's actually been possible to buy 50GB dual layer blanks in Japan for more than a year. 5/3/2006 3:21 AM | h8fools

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

All the movies released for HD DVD so far have been dual layer so the person who reported single layer is wrong, i wish they would dump both these formats and move onto holographic 1 terrabyte technology and give us 4k resolution and lossless audio and a player that gets up after the movie is over and makes you a cup of coffee and some toast. 5/3/2006 6:54 AM | User2951

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

Current HD DVD disks are dual layer with VC1. Blu Ray only needs 1 layer for right now. It will hold about 4 hours of HD content on 25 gigs. Also 50 gig disks cost just about twice as much. Probably won't see movies on 50 gig blu-ray disk for a long, long while. There just isn't any need. 5/3/2006 7:16 AM | Chest Rockwell

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

In commercial releases where you have a DVDR on the flip side BluRay currently ONLY supports single layer 25 GB disks. HD DVD supports 3 layers with up to 45 GB, AND a DVDR on the flipside, or another HD DVD on the flip side for up to 90 GB capacity. 5/3/2006 7:56 AM | TOny

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

However much they store, BluRay is a Sony product so most likely will be a miserable failure just like memory stick Duo, Atrac, Minidisk, Betamax, SACD, Walkman bean, Sonic Stage, UMD, and many others before it.

No to mention that BLuray is twice the price. The average consumer is much more likely to risk a £500 paperweight than a £1000 paperweight!... 5/3/2006 8:05 AM | Mark

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

VC1 at the same bitrate as MPEG2 will always look better than the MPEG2. Since Sony is releasing on 25GB discs with MPEG2, they will have to increase the bitrate to get good quality (To at least 22Mb/s in recent tests). This means that they will have less space for extras on a 25GB disc than the launch titles of HDDVD with 30GB and 15 Mb/s VC1.
Don't be surprised if the first blu-ray titles are a little sparse, until they can either ramp up on H-264 or VC1, or get out dual layer discs. 5/3/2006 8:37 AM | MH4

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

I am a laser guy. Does anyone know power or part number of the violet laser that makes it all go? 5/3/2006 12:24 PM | John Lewis

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

its a blue-violet 405 nm laser 5/3/2006 10:59 PM | Tony

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

Very impressive... My mate just passed me the link to the video, and I had to go dig out the blog link so I could post my comment ;)

Cracking little video, very informative and although I had no idea the player was just a P4 running Linux on a bunch of otherwise-standard hardware, part of me isn't surprised.

I'm also newly hopeful that it'll allow people to crack the firmware to allow high-def output via component should the studios ever disable this function... Or should the need ever arise ;)

All in all, a very informative vid. Thanks for showing it to the web. 5/4/2006 12:30 AM | Christopher Woods

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

You can get high definition by component right now and you can also import your high definition discs from anywhere in this world and it'll work on this puppy, it seems HD-DVD is less stringent with regional coding and it's disabled on these first 2 models. I wonder if Sony who are famous for putting rootkits onto people's computers and spying on us without our consent or knowledge will enable their regional coding when Blu-Ray hits the streets, will they have tough DRM, i think so and that's why their format will fail. The poster who talked about triple layer 45GB discs is wrong as there is none and likely to be none. 5/4/2006 3:57 AM | DogHouse

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

I think eventually Apple will have their Video IPOD large enough to accomodate movies encoded in any format as the DSP chip they use can decode any of the above mentioned encodings. They will make it possible to download movies via a Kiosk located at every blockbuster/Circuit City and Starbucks. Thus eliminating the high bandwidth needs that can't be provided at reasonable costs to consumers.
Steve Jobs is a shrewed business person who has a seat at the Board at Disney. 5/4/2006 4:14 AM | Dud Apple

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

Cool :) Could you post more pics of the componets, thanx 5/4/2006 11:41 PM | Sparrow

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Is reverse engineering punished by the law ? 5/6/2006 9:23 PM | Jojohan75

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

I can't wait to get definitive answers on these topics. I'm glad somebody has started that ball rolling. I saw the Toshiba guys on tour last month and they were either completely misinformed or clueless about their own technology so I couldn't trust a thing they said. 5/9/2006 4:14 AM | Fettastic

# Toshiba HD-A1: Vollwertiger PC?!

Vor zwei Wochen war in Amerika der Verkaufstart der HD DVD und bis jetzt gibt es bereits die gantische... 5/9/2006 8:57 AM | lafes kleiner Block

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

Very interesting. Here's an idea: Disconect the usb flash drive, and connect a hard drive with windows or linux to the IDE controller and see if it boots. Assuming it has a BIOS like every other P4, it should skip the absent USB drive, and go straight into the next bootable device. If that doesn't work, try hooking a hard drive up to the USB, since that seems to be the default boot controler.

Also, can you tell what video/audio chipsets it's using? 5/10/2006 10:23 AM | shnoogie

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

Great job, put a link and post up on www.dvdoctor.net
Sharyn

5/16/2006 9:21 PM | Sharyn Ferrick

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

Has anybody tested this player with MPEG-4 AVC sources yet? 5/26/2006 6:01 AM | SeeMoreDigital

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

I read that Apple supports blu-ray. Have you tried putting that HD-DVD drive in a firewire enclosure and attached it to a Mac? 5/29/2006 5:19 AM | benjiernmd

# Can it be played on a PC???

Have you managed to play any of the HD-DVD movies on an actual PC yet?

According to the intervideo website, WinDVD 7.0 Platnium is capable of playing AACS HDDVD content. I am not sure if you will need an HDMI video card. I believe that the HDMI copy protection has not yet been implimented on the first generation HDDVD titles yet.

Any success? 6/4/2006 1:56 PM | Dr Buzz0

# Toshiba HD-DVD Player Dissected

Audio/Video nerd Lorin over at geeks with blogs bought himself a fancy new Toshiba HD-DVD player and prompty dismantled it without even plugging it into a TV. Even though we question his priorities, we do salute his DIY-ness in exposing... 6/23/2006 12:10 PM | Gizmodo

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

Why not take a look at the GNU/Linux software and try and read a disc? Or has anyone read the disc raw into an ISO or UDF file from windowz? 7/3/2006 1:29 PM | now3d

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

I found this site by accident, but the guy that did the "Teardown" is amazing! I have been Lucky so far with my HD-A1. As long as you connect via HDMI. If you use Component or any other option your Regular DVD's will not Upconvert. Well, most won't. And all the people that claim to think updates are wrong? Don't get them then. I will take any and all improvement updates smiling. At least Toshiba is working on improving. Can anyone tell if the rumor for a 1080P update is in the works? That would be cool... 7/6/2006 11:45 AM | Brian David Stevens

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

Oh, I forgot, and questions that I may be of help? Or if my 1080P question has an answer?

I can be contacted at:

meerupps@hotmail.com
7/6/2006 11:46 AM | Brian David Stevens

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

You state that you can not read HD-DVDs when you connect the Nec 1100 to your PC. The reason is that XP can not read UDF 2.50 by default. The solution is to use IsoBuster or to connect the drive to a Mac. OS-X can read UDF 2.50 without a problem, and Apple DVD player can playback HD-DVDs ... although I would be very surprised if OS-X supports AACS and can playback protected disks. 7/9/2006 3:28 AM | Erwin van den Berg

# Toshiba HD-A1 HD-DVD player runs redhat Linux

HD-DVD has been seen a firmly a more "Microsoft" technology than Blu-ray. Microsoft considers the java-based interactive menus in Blu-ray a threat, and Sony at the other side doesn't help. However, it appears that even HD-DVD implementers prefer Linux. A 7/16/2006 9:27 AM | Linux Gadgets

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

Really cool watching the video. Probably see you on G4 one day. My buddy was telling me about getting the first units out before they cheapen them down. I can see what he's talking about. The HD quality sheds a new light on video. Very impressive.

Thanks for the info. Looked like fun!

Jeff 8/4/2006 10:40 AM | Jeff

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

Just as a side note:

I authored my own HD-DVD's with Ulead DVD Movie Factory 5 (from HiDef TS files) and created an HD-DVD ISO file.

I can burn that ISO file to DVD-R and Dual Layers and the HD-A1 will read it as an HD-DVD.

If I put that disk into my DVD-Rom or Burner is says invalid file structure or that it can't read the disk.

I also hear that WinDVD 8 (Japan release only right now) can read HD-DVD and BluRay.

I was thinking you should try the HD-DVD drive in the PC with that software and see what results you get then. 8/8/2006 11:08 AM | Arpeggio

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

quote: DogHouse

You can get high definition by component right now ........ So, I can use this hd-dvd player on my older hdtv with component cables and get TURE HD 1080 w/o upconversion like what the TV already does? THAT WOULD BE GREAT, I can get one tomorrow if it does. ANY TRUTH TO THIS? 8/13/2006 6:18 PM | Adonian

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

okay, no response to my above question... Is there anyone here? Anyway, is it possible to use HDMI to DVI cable to get ture hd resolution then? 8/18/2006 5:32 PM | Adonian

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

Q1. Has anyone actually tried playing Region 2 PAL SD DVDs - do they play to an NTSC TV?
Q2. Are the digital audio outputs (I believe there is one each optical and co-ax) active when using the HDMI as my TV (Toshiba 13HF84) has no digital output so it would have to go straight to the receiver? 8/25/2006 7:30 AM | Jeff Smith

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

Has anyone dimatled a HD-XA1? Differences between in and the HD-A1?
8/27/2006 10:13 AM | Paul_A/V

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

Excellent, so we know it was powered by a Pentium 4 2.5ghz 1gig pc 2700 memory and a pc compatible hd-dvd rom drive. Good review 8/29/2006 6:33 PM | Darknightx

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

The "controller" chip near the SUB-D 9 pin could be a level shifter to be able to attach a Serial Cable to it.
Remember RS232 is +/-12V and the I/O's of the processor may be 3.3V or 5V. Then you will need that level shifters. May be a MAX3232 or one of it's "brothers" could fit. 8/31/2006 9:26 AM | Michael

# GPL license status?

Does Toshiba provide information on getting the source for the Redhat distribution embeded in this device? 9/7/2006 4:32 PM | tuxokc

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

Where we can download Disk Image(256 MB) in zip file? And may be possible make bootable CD with this firmware :) 9/15/2006 9:25 AM | Nick_Shl

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

The HD-A1 will playback HD DVDs at 1080i full resolution as long as ICT (image constraint token) is not implemented on the disc (must be on the cover denoted clearly). ICT will not be implemented on HD DVD until 2011 at the earliest. Studios will probably begin at that time to phase out component support. Upconversion of SD DVDs will not occur on component unless the disc is copied and all macrovision and CSS protections are stripped from the disc. You can also strip regional codings and it will player SD DVDs from any region that way. It is an amazing machine and produces the best sound and upconversion on the market sub $2500. HD DVDs beat Blu-Ray hands down. Only VC-1 BDs match HD DVDs and the BD consortium has not yet released a title in BD-50. They will "soon" but soon for them is a guessing game. 9/23/2006 7:22 AM | Tha Force

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

The HD-A1 will playback HD DVDs at 1080i full resolution as long as ICT 10/4/2006 8:55 PM | gammle

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

What about AVCHD playback? I know BluRay is supposed to support it, but will the Toshiba? I just ordered a sony HDR-SR1 and I wanna' make some Dual Layer dvd+r's in AVCHD. Anybody know? THX. 10/9/2006 5:45 PM | Adonian

# re: HD DVD and DVD REGIONS Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1).,..

As we know, Toshiba HD-A1 is REGION FREE for HD DVDs. How to easily make it REGION FREE for DVDs??
Thank you! 10/27/2006 11:40 AM | Raider

# Region Free for DVD

I have the same question than yours Raider : how to make the Hd-A1 region free for DVD? I'm using it in a region 2 zone so I still have to keep my Zone 2 DVD player which isn't the best... 10/29/2006 3:53 AM | Zorglub33

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

how to make HDA1 region free for dvd? 10/30/2006 8:10 AM | osvan

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

Interesting to know the internals of HD-A1..CAn one assume that one can replace the P4 2.5 to P4 3.4 and increase the DDR RAM to 2 GB and the load time of this player should reduce from current 50secs to 80 secs ? Just a thought 11/16/2006 11:36 AM | MAC

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

Can the memory stick and processor be upgraded?
Has anyone tried it? 12/30/2006 12:56 PM | Badaxe73

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

Any progress ?? 1/3/2007 3:35 AM | omis

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

wow you rock!!!
I’ve been fighting the A1 for a week.
Finally figured out the bit stream audio only comes out the Hdmi connector
I need to output the bit stream audio out the Spdif connector as my system does not have any hdmi components any ideas
Thanks J
1/18/2007 8:51 AM | Jeremy Owen

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

fox is codeing on there disc A only 1/19/2007 5:01 AM | kris

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

BLU RAY IS BETTER THAN HD DVD
AND BLU RAY IS GONING TO WIN 1/19/2007 6:50 PM | BEN

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

Time will tell Ben...only time will tell. 1/27/2007 5:53 PM | KEN

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

Update on HD-A1... the m-Systems usb uDOC chip is write protected... does anyone have the knowledge on how to deprotect it? or some software that will allow editing of the uDOC saved file. I beleive I can remove the region coding for standard dvd, but cannot write my program to the chip. Any help appreciated. Contact me here or via the dvd library.
thanks, Chipmaster 2/8/2007 6:49 AM | Alan at HD DVD UK

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

Anyone try to dump flash from doutherboard in external programer ? 2/10/2007 11:27 AM | gw

# re: Up close and personal with Toshiba's new HD DVD player (the HD-A1)

blu ray is out sales hd dvd bye 3.1 blu ray is the winner hd dvd no no no 2/13/2007 12:55 AM | don

# CPU Upgrade Attempt

I did not bother to read more than a few posts, so pardon me if upgrading the P4 in these units was already discussed.

First off, I own the step-up HD-XA1 (my brother just bought the new A2 btw). It has been stated that the HD-A1 is installed with a standard Northwood 2.5GHz P4. If this is the case, then I can tell you that the HD-XA1 is different. Still a Northwood core with 478 pinout 0.13 micron wafer design and 512kb cache...yet the CPU is a special lower power consumpion Mobile *P4M* clocked at 2.6GHz/100MHz bus. Its Intel S-Spec identifier is SL6WZ. This 2.6GHz part was the quickest Norhwood core P4M Intel ever produced.

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SAME RESULT FOR ALL. What the heck did Toshiba do here? Do you think that they manipulated the bios to actively reject all processors with the exception of the original? Was the processor somehow "mated" to the player through some type of thorough CPU i.d. verification scheme?

I'm disappointed that the player's upgrade path is so ominous. Do you know of anyone who has discovered a work-around? 2.6GHz simply isn't fast enough. I can't stomach that slow boot up anymore! If it could be shortened just five seconds, that would be such a relief.

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to change region on this player (on SD DVD only, HD DVD are multiregion) , do the following. Insert a region 1 disc and in the setup menu press "initialize". To change to region 2, do the same but with a region 2 disc.
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Anyone know how to remove HDCP? I need that hack in order to connect my HD-DVD player to my projector. HDMI to DVI. Picture goes off after 45 seconds. :-( 6/4/2007 11:46 AM | Hans

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If I change the region using "initialize" on the setup menu, is there a limit to the number of times I can change it? I have both region 1 and region 2 standard DVDs. 6/10/2007 12:26 PM | Pierre

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Pierre. I don't think there is such a limit. I have done it alot if times already. Got the tip from Toshiba support technician. 6/11/2007 11:56 AM | Hans

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Hans, how did you do the region change, because I'm trying and dont get it working. Is there any trick? 6/18/2007 7:24 AM | Fabio

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Hans, just adding further info: the firmware version of my HD-A1 is 2.2. 6/18/2007 7:26 AM | Fabio

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Hans, does this region change "trick" actually unlock support for *PAL encoded* region 2 DVDs?

I have a few region free PAL discs which will not play. An error message is displayed stating that PAL is not
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Also, what firmware are you running? The previous poster noted that he can't get this to work under 2.2 6/26/2007 8:53 PM | Ken

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Fabio, unfortunately for us, Hans must be fibbing. I tried the procedure several times with no success as well. BTW, I'm still running FW2.0 6/27/2007 1:46 AM | Ken

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ya, excatly. Ive tried doing the same. I stick in a region 2 PAL disc, goto setup/maintance/initialze and let it do it thing. And yet still, it wont play a region 2 pal dvd. So can u give a littel more help hans???? 7/27/2007 4:54 PM | tony

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You crack up a new HD-DVD Player... a brand new? You just loose the guarrantee by doing that. Well, I guess you really buy it for doing it. But it was a great information you've shared.
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All the movies released for HD DVD so far have been dual layer so the person who reported single layer is wrong.
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I used one from Toshiba but could not be satisfied with that. It could not read several disks especially when the disks get old. From your postmortem of this one it seems to be a better one. It's chips seems to be much upgraded and able to give more support to users.

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I used one from Toshiba but could not be satisfied with that. It could not read several disks especially when the disks get old. From your postmortem of this one it seems to be a better one. It's chips seems to be much upgraded and able to give more support to users.

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Now if Sony would only be wise and price the first players at $500 rather than $900 then I think they would win hands-down in this new format war. 6/18/2009 5:32 AM | Lenkra

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I was able to get access to another HD-DVD player, and after reading the image on its flash disk it's different in a couple places.
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According to the intervideo website, WinDVD 7.0 Platnium is capable of playing AACS HDDVD content. I am not sure if you will need an HDMI video card. I believe that the HDMI copy protection has not yet been implimented on the first generation HDDVD titles yet.
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I've only had this thing for a couple of days, and have been absolutely blown away by the video and audio quality of the two HD-DVD movies. Picture quality is phenomenal, even on my 42" 720p LCD rear-projection TV.

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The Toshiba HD-A1 is a very good machine. It will upconvert regular discs to their highest resolution. It works great with a HDTV and a HDMI cable. I bought mine when it first hit the market, so the prices are fabulous.

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