D'Arcy from Winnipeg
Solution Architecture, Business & Entrepreneurship, Microsoft, and Adoption

Safari Beta - the Mac take

Tuesday, June 12, 2007 4:07 AM
So the new version of Safari is out in beta, not just for Mac but for Windows. This is great news! I mean, now they have TWO code-bases to fix the horrendous bugs on instead of just one!

There's no secret that I'm not a huge fan of Safari. It was buggy as hell when I first used it on my Mac back in November when I got it, and i've been in very happy Firefox bliss ever since. But I applaud Apple for not giving up on Safari, and I'm willing to give it another shot. That shot lasted 5 minutes.

I loaded the beta, and proceeded to start surfing. Odd...clicking hyperlinks don't work...anywhere. Not on Apple, not on MSN, not on Yahoo...I have to type in an address to move around the net?! Luckily, this is some sort of bug...I opened a new tab, closed the original one that opened by default, and links magically worked again. Reopening Safari again didn't cause the same hyperlink issue...weird.

The best test of course is GeeksWithBlogs. IE and Firefox both display GWB properly. But Safari, for whatever reason, puts huge gaps between the menu items along the top...and the individual posts display oddly.

However looking at the individual blogs, the new skins seem to work fine...until you go into the Subtext admin screen.

I don't know why...but for whatever reason, the javascript controls in post body text area never load in Safari...never had.

This is the deal-breaker for me. Maybe its some weird security setting, but I can't be bothered to hunt it down when Safari enables it by default.

So anyway, Safari will not be my default browser anytime soon...but hopefully they get the bugs ironed out...I don't know if they can catch up with Firefox though.

D


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# re: Safari Beta - the Mac take

The point of releasing it isn't to compete with Firefox or IE (it will never match market share with either... and since it's basically derived from the Mozilla code base people will use Mozilla before Safari). But the point of releasing Safari for windows is as an IPhone SDK.

Although the IPhone has a full version of OSX on board, apple doesn't want to unlock it for developers, so they're pressuring us to use Ajax based web apps on the IPhone. This is great as long as you're able to get a data connection, and aren't afraid of paying Roger's <A href="http://www.thomaspurves.com/2007/04/09/canada-worse-than-3rd-world-countries-when-it-comes-to-mobile-data-access/">CRIMINAL </a> data transfer rates here in Canada (We're worse than Rwanda). But since there's only one browser on the Iphone, they wanted to allow all developers to develop for it. The biggest problem for Safari compatability is that the majority of web developers didn't have Safari to test their web pages on, because they didn't have a Mac.

This will fix this...

Now they just have to make it so that developers aren't so lazy and actually do test with Safari. _Most_ changes between Safari and Firefox are minimal, but there's always a few "gotchas".

Cam 6/12/2007 10:29 AM | Cam

# re: Safari Beta - the Mac take

I also find it kind of amusing that in a post about browsers and compatiblity I was unable to post comments to your blog using Firefox. (Had to use IE)

Cam 6/12/2007 10:32 AM | Cam

# re: Safari Beta - the Mac take

Heh...it must be a windows Firefox thing, because I can post comments using the Mac version without a problem.
;)

D 6/12/2007 5:58 PM | D'Arcy from Winnipeg

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