MoMoLondon Round-Up

Mobile Monday was great fun and it was rather interesting seeing things from the other side.  Being on the panel talking about Mobile Web 2.0 there was an obvious difference between points of views on even what mobile web 2.0 is.  I guess we are all entitled to our own points of view and that to each and every one of us it is uniquely different.

I tried to get as many developer points across to Vodafone on data cost, api's and location services being made available.  Unfortunately it was a little difficult for them to answer my questions, comments and such.  I guess time constraints etc got in the way.  I hope I wasn't too harsh to Vodafone!

We didn't get into the low level nitty gritty of things in person but some of the discussions on the yahoo group afterwards are well worth looking into.  It would have been fun to have gotten into AJAX talks but it just didn't come up and I know loads of people there wanted to discuss it.  On the other hand it was great to be able to just ask the network providers how they expect developers to get round issues such as location based data visualisation to mobile devices.  I do wonder whether they should be publishing something that gives recommended methods of gaining this data.  (it's quick to do, doesn't cost them anything to develop and would help the devs out no end) The same goes for getting the phone ID's.

I tried to get across the point that I believe that network operators will have a very different role to play in the future and not as a voice and short text data carrier.  More as a service provider and a billing/ payments provider. 

The presentations from the MoMoLondon event were reasonably OK but there have been mixed responses from them, too marketing orientated was the general response. (too many book plugs!) However some of the content was interesting and did leave people thinking although I think some of the examples could have been better chosen for web 2.0 vs mobile web 2.0.  Then again these things aren't always easy to do so I have to say I have the utmost respect for anyone who stands in front of large crowds of people and talks on any subject.

The next Mobile Monday event doesn't yet have a venue so if you would like to host it please let Daniel Appelquist know.  He will be happy to hear from you.

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Mobile Web 2.0 (Discuss!) (part 2)

Well Mobile Monday has been and gone... I did sit on the panel and we did discuss Mobile Web 2.0.  In the second part of this Mobile Web 2.0 discussion I'm going to just make a few points that I think got lost in the discussions on the panel and give a bit of reasoning behind them. 

As I said before I believe in mobi-web 2.0 which is new innovative mobile solutions that break through the boundaries of the mobile issues such as multiple operating systems, multiple devices, languages etc.  I also have a strong belief in MobileWeb 2.0 the extension of web 2.0 to mobile devices.  By this I mean mobile wiki's, blogging via mobile, rss to mobile, podcasts bi directionally (creation and listening to).  Some of these things are already here and only today I heard that SocialText launched Miki, a mobile wiki solution.  A fantastic example of mobile wiki's working in the browser.

I think there is a lot more that needs to be done for mobi-web 2.0 to take off completely.  The biggest barriers to entry are the disparities of the OS and the lack of developer-> network provider and developer->device manufacturer input.  In many ways this is a shame and I have a feeling that this is beginning to change.  (or at least I hope it will). 

With new versions of the Windows Mobile operating system and the new Symbian 9 operating system hopefully platform changes won't happen too often so then they will be stable.  Browsers... well those should work to web standards... (if only...) and I guess us developers just have to test with all browser types the same as we do when we create any other web application. 

Those location based services, low level date information etc all need nicely bundling into api's for the dev to access... now that would create interesting applications... a new phase of mobile development and encourage people to use data services.  (are you hearing this network service providers!)  Therefore by helping and providing as much useful data as you can would be a help to the applications developers and the network operators to some degree.

Mobile payment systems... well... we have issues of trust there... people like to trust things, and they don't necessarily trust their mobile all the time... now the question there is what exactly can be done to combat this and I guess really what needs to happen is transparency of what is going on would be a good start.... prove the level of trust. 

Context awareness within applications on the go is important and should never be discounted in conversations on mobi-web 2.0.  If you don't have the users attention then you don't want to be doing payments for example... and you really shouldn't be texting whilst driving... so... when all these new services to mobiles come about... how do we ensure the context awareness?  Is it a low level thing or is it a software application... it's an interesting debate and a subject that needs to be looked into in more detail.

Something else that I would love people to consider is that mobi-web 2.0 isdata transfer via the internet but not using web pages... for example device hosted client interfaces with data transfer via the web to online or server hosted content... data down and data up...  This is a very business orientated approach to mobile data transfers and still uses the backbone of the web.  It is still sharing data between points, the difference is it may not always be visible on the web. How does this fit with most peoples views on mobile web 2.0. 

The way I see it, no one considers this as mobile web 2.0.  This has been about for a while and it is getting bigger, better, faster and cheaper as devices get more powerful.  It also allows for the use of gdi graphics on devices and more with some of the latest devices.  Again constraints here are the data transfer costs, but with Wifi becoming more accessible and Wi-Max coming in (all be it slowly and cautiously (and rightly so!)).  I am looking forward to this always connected environment and I see this creating some of tomorrow's "killer apps" so to speak.

Battery life on devices bothers me at the moment.  With all these devices getting more powerful whilst we are all on the move and with GPS in phones by the end of the year, how are we going to manage to keep the battery life in a usable state for long periods of time.  (fuel cells?!) Maybe someone needs to consider this.  Developers try to code to use as little processing power and memory as they can so that they preserve battery life as much as possible but yet add GPS and you reduce the battery life as this is a power hungry piece of equipment... then add wifi, GPRS, Bluetooth, Wi-Max and whatever else you can think of... and we have an issue... what are the priorities here?

I hope this leaves you all with something to think about.

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Socialtext launched Miki (mobile wiki)

Just been looking through my rss feeds and I HAD to let everyone know about Miki!  The new mobile wiki solution from SocialText.  Why... because I was only talking to some people on Monday evening about mobile wiki's not yet really being here.  I think that is one step closer to web 2.0 hitting the mobile!  What do you say Mobile Monday people!

Ross and I chatted quite a bit last time he was in London at wiki wednesday about this and it looks like he finally managed to get a workable solution so I have to say well done to Ross and his team!

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Mobi-Mashup (Anyone in the UK fancy it?)

Hi people..

I was at Mobile Monday earlier this week and something that came up was that devs here in London would quite like to get together over a few drinks and do some mobile dev stuff and work together to solve issues in the industry and maybe bypass some of the issues that the OS and the network operators cause. 

If you fancy catching up over a drink, with your laptop this weekend in London or know somewhere really good that would work as a venue that is free and doesn't mind us hooking upto their power I would be interested.  (I was thinking bar, restaurant or a nightclub that's not using the space during the day?!)  This is NOT a sit and chat about mobile... this is a sit and solve issues with mobile! (bring your devices!)

If it works then maybe we could do this on a reasonably regular basis and who knows... change the face of mobi-web 2.0!

Update:  I'll be Here from 1pm this Saturday if anyone fancies meeting up for it!

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