Tim Scott

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I finished creating my virtual pc install for testing the betas of all the stuff I picked up at TechEd. I've got Windows Server 2003 R2, with IIS 6, SharePoint, SQL Server 2005, and Visual Studio 2005. I tried to get Visual Studio Team Server installed on it as well, but I had some problems with the data tier. Looking at other people's experience, this may be due to the beta not being very happy on a virtual machine...or could be because I missed a step. If you're installing VSTS, do it on a fresh box and follow the installation guidelines exactly! Be sure you use the latest install doc, too (not the one on the CD).

After I was done I 7zip-ed up the VHD so I can take the image to work. That got the 10GB VHD down to 3.3GB, small enough to fit on a DVD. Now I can actually start playing with the new stuff!

On a side note, I've added google ads to this site (in case you missed the screaming orange box to the left). I'm curious how they'll do...this site probably doesn't get enough traffic t o generate any money. We'll see. I was hoping the ads would be more programming-related. So far all I've seen are ads for blogging and ask jeeves.  Maybe google needs to index my site first, to see what the content relates to. Hmm, I'd better check to make sure it's ok to have google ads on geekwithblogs.net...

posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 9:39 PM

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# re: Visual Studio 2005 - The good bits 6/22/2005 7:59 PM Adam
Let me know how VS 2005 looks. I'm particularly interested in performance improvements, but, knowing Microsoft's record in that regard, I'm not getting my hopes up. ;)

# re: Visual Studio 2005 - The good bits 6/23/2005 12:47 AM Tim
Well, since I'm running it in a Virtual PC environment, it'll be kinda hard to tell. I know what you mean--VC++ 6 has a /snappy/ UI...and VS .NET 2003 is kinda sluggish.

Based on the demos at TechEd, and from what I've heard VS 2005 looks snappier; but we'll see.

# re: Visual Studio 2005 - The good bits 6/23/2005 1:22 AM Adam
VS.Net 2003 isn't so bad with smaller projects, like Capsher usually deals with, but since I'm using it at NI for a giant multi-million-lines-of-code project (LabVIEW), it definitely gets sluggish. It often just locks up for 5-10 seconds while it thinks, and, oddly enough, closing the solution seems to take way longer than opening it. Some fellow employees prefer to just end the process rather than wait for it to close the normal way.

I blame it partially on their insistence on using custom UI elements for everything. The whole UI is just too damn slow. I think it has other performance problems (in addition to the custom UI stuff), though. Parsing files for code outlining seems to be especially troublesome. Perhaps I can disable that, since I never use it for C/C++ code.

# re: Visual Studio 2005 - The good bits 6/23/2005 1:45 PM Tim
You're on the right track there--I read somewhere that most of the slowness in 2003 is due to the way they're parsing code for intellisense, outlining, etc... It had some tips for speeding it up (by turning off things you may not use). I'll see if I can dig it up.

# re: Visual Studio 2005 - The good bits 6/23/2005 10:45 PM Adam
Well, I do use intellisense, though. I find that very useful. I don't use outlining. I tried turning it off today, but I think all I did was hide it. I still noticed the delays. Maybe there's a way of disabling that parsing step completely...

# re: Visual Studio 2005 - The good bits 6/24/2005 5:30 PM Tim
Well, I can't find the article I was thinking of. But, I did read some other stuff about what they're doing to improve perf. For example, check out this exchange between a beta tester and a ms support person (see link under my name on this post).

I hope they treat all perf issues with that much care. So, if you've got VS 2005, and you are having a problem, let someone at that product feedback center know!

# re: Visual Studio 2005 - The good bits 8/11/2005 10:58 AM Bob
VS 2003 - turn OFF dynamic help. That will 'help' a lot with IDE performance

# re: Visual Studio 2005 - The good bits 8/11/2005 10:58 AM Bob
VS 2003 - turn OFF dynamic help. That will 'help' a lot with IDE performance

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