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ASP.NET 2.0 hasn’t put the final nail in the coffin of Frames. It does however provide some better alternatives depending on what you are trying to achieve.

I googled up some comparisons of Frames, Master Pages and the ICallBackEventHandler a good overview article on ASP.net 2.0 sates in favour of master pages:

              Bookmark a page and recall all the information on the specific page, not just the default frame page. A master page isn't really a frame. It's a single page that contains collated content from the master page and the content page that builds on the master. Therefore it looks and acts like a single Web page rather than a frame.

              Work by means of controls and tags rather than HTML. Thanks to Visual Studio, you don't have to worry about opening and closing frame tags or modifying countless HTML attributes to ensure that each frame displays in the correct fashion. You can simply create the place holder and modify its properties through Visual Studio.

              Leverage Visual Studio's code creation to visually design the layout, manage the frames, and provide all of the plumbing to link the content pages into the master page. You can add new content without having to worry that the overall HTML layout of the page will be affected. “

Migrating from ASP.NET 1.x to ASP.NET 2.0

By Jayesh Patel, Bryan Acker, Robert McGovern - Infusion Development, July 2004

https://www.mainfunction.com/DotNetInAction/Technologies/display.aspx?ID=2760&TypeID=17#master

And this extract from an interview with Scott Guthrie Microsoft’s ASP.net Architect discusses how the new callback manager (ICallBackEventHandler) which is basically a XMLHTTP wrapper can also help in reducing the amount of visible page refreshes.

“…So, one is to do what we call, out-of-bound call backs, where you can stay on the same page as an end user, but then through script, you can actually make a call back to the server and fetch new data that you populate down to the client, without having to, again, refresh the entire page, without having to lose scroll position, etc.

So will out-of-bound callbacks spell the end of the evil IFRAME?

The IFRAME today has a bum wrap in terms of reputation. I think the combination of out-of-bound callbacks as well as some of the things we're doing in terms of master pages, to provide much cleaner layout of a page, where you can go ahead and rather than have to rely on frames in order to cleanly separate, or integrate content into a site, you can now rely on master pages. I think the combination of those two are going to put the hurt on the IFRAME out there. It's still fully supported, but the nice thing is, there's much richer mechanisms you can rely on now. “

http://www.theserverside.net/talks/videos/ScottGuthrie/interview.tss?bandwidth=56k

Well master pages seem a fantastic tool for development. They give you page inheritance, reusability you can even nest them giving the developer a simple way for you to ensure consistent look and feel to an entire application. So from a developer’s point of view they rock.

But what about the user experience well even if a content page “inherits” a master page each time the page is requested the entire page will refresh whether it is the content part or the master part of the page. Users hate full page refreshes, developers hate trips to the server to retrieve redundant html, the menu bar and advertisement is already on the client’s browser so why go and get it again (even if it is cached on the server).

Can implementing the ICallBackEventHandler help, well yes and no. Use of this technique can only refresh data. For example, enable the user to page through a grid without refreshing the entire page. You can’t really use this to redisplay the entire content area of the page if it contains asp: web controls (well I have done it but using Frames would be much much easier).

If you haven’t already come across the concept of XML Data Islands it has been around for a while along with Frames and XMLHTTP (now the ICallBackEventHandler). This technique requires the use of the DHTML XML tag you use this to build a client side repository of data in XML. For example if a user is entering data to complete a form over a number of pages, it would be more beneficial if you stored the data on the client between pages until the user reaches the final page and presses submit and only then hit the server to update your data source. This potentially has no effect on the dreaded page refresh it is great for relieving the pressure on your database server however. Note this is not the only use for XML Data Island the example is a common one however.

So the only way to stop the entire page refreshing if you are using asp: or user controls on your page (these need to be rendered by the asp.net runtime) and only refreshing the content area of a page is still through the use of Frames. Unfortunately in ASP.net Beta 2 unlike ASP.net 1.X it doesn’t ship with a Frameset template although there will be an online template available and adding the tags yourself won’t cause injury.

So what are the best practices I have come up with many seasoned web developers will already practice these however for those beginners and intermediates I hope this will be of some help and relive you of trial and error driven development. Some of you may disagree with these and I would like to hear back from you guys. Remember it is the users we are building these web applications for not the developers.

Use master pages when

              Not concerned about a full page refresh

              Development requires a highly modifiable inheritable page standard and users will live with a page refresh

              Need to be allow the user to bookmark a specific page

Use the ICallBackEventHandler when

              Want to refresh data or images in a control and not refresh the entire page

              Want to refresh part of the page with simple HTML (no asp: controls) and not refresh the entire page

Use XML Data Islands

              You want to build stores of data on a client and by doing this reduce the number of hits to update the servers data source

Use Frames when

              Don’t want full page refreshes

              Have complex asp: control driven pages which can’t be refreshed by data only i.e. the asp: controls need to be generated into html by the web server first

              Need multiple areas of the page to be refreshed at different times by the user

 R. Addis & A. Rambabu

Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 6:33 AM ASP.net 2.0 | Back to top


Comments on this post: Best Practice: Frames Vs MasterPages Vs ICallBackEventHandler Vs DataIslands and the dreaded page refresh

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So how can I pull in the contents of another website? I need to pull in a search form/results page from another website that was built to be called within a frame. I do not particularily want to use frames as I have already spent considerable time developing a master page but I do not know how to pull in this external content any other way...
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So how can I pull in the contents of another website? I need to pull in a search form/results page from another website that was built to be called within a frame. I do not particularily want to use frames as I have already spent considerable time developing a master page but I do not know how to pull in this external content any other way...
Left by Ken on Apr 10, 2006 4:39 PM

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Nice One Thanks it solved my problem
Left by Krishna on May 21, 2007 4:55 PM

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</-- really good artical thanks!
Left by mchammer on Sep 26, 2007 11:53 AM

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I hope you all have read up on Ajax my article is really old.
Left by Rob on Sep 26, 2007 9:00 PM

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I have to develop a site, should i use frames or master page and when,why?
Left by Tshwene Reginald Langa on Jun 14, 2010 9:08 PM

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Well balanced article that still holds true in 2011. MS was discouraging developers from using frames for a long time already, but the truth is - there still no 100% alternative in VS. Full page refreshes make for bad user experience, and user experience is our primary target most of the time. And surrounding the whole ASP.NET page into UpdatePanel to avoid refreshes is a horrible, distasteful technique that generates huge amounts of traffic.
Left by Steve on Mar 30, 2011 7:20 AM

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