What's wrong with Windows Mail Live (aka Hotmail)

Peter Stathakos posted yesterday about Gmail, and I thought I'd continue the discussion about Windows Hotmail Live (or whatever it's now called).  Since you get to it from the URL mail.live.com, I always think of it as "Windows Mail Live" so I can type the right URL.  It's definitely been improving over the past few months, especially in terms of speed.  And I think the bug in IE7 with multiple windows popping up has now been fixed.  But compared with GMail I find it lacking.  Here's the stuff ordered by importance that keeps me from using the web interface:

  • Doesn't automatically show you new incoming email like GMail does.
  • The spam filter often ditches legitimate messages, so it's not worth using the filter at all.
  • Plagued with advertising.  The main page has stupid irrelevant FOX-type news and sometimes ads with streaming video.  I came for my email, not drivel.
  • Doesn't automatically save drafts when you're composing mail

For these reasons I still use Outlook Express to pick up my Hotmail.  And thus have to keep an XP machine around since you can't use OE on Vista.

I haven't had many outages on GMail, but I have heard (very rare) of some few folks that unexpectedly lost all their email.  It may be a Firefox security issue not related to Google, but nonetheless it's always good to have a backup of the important stuff.


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# re: What's wrong with Windows Mail Live (aka Hotmail)

lorin -- check out http://get.live.com/betas/maildesktop_betas for a client other than outlook express -- it is actually pretty good and has integrated rss capabilities as well 5/3/2007 12:53 PM | timheuer

# re: What's wrong with Windows Mail Live (aka Hotmail)

Wow Tim Heuer, you almost convinced me with your url...but not really. I was surprised when i saw i suddenly have Live Mail and they said i wouldnt loose any existing mail, but what do you think? Yes, indeed i lost all my mail, thank you microsoft. Well in fact they were acting like always, promising things that dont come true. You can see, im very disappointed in microsoft. They look like non professionals with a lot of money.

So maybe this contributes to the answer at the question: what is wrong with Windows Live Mail?

5/19/2007 10:14 AM | Gabbah

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I have not been able to log on to my email since last night and am getting very frustrated. I have tried accessing from different sites, through msnmessenger, etc. I have a mac which has never been a problem but is there an issue with windows live or is it my browser or what??? 6/17/2007 11:37 AM | MaryKathryn

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What's happening?! I am just up on a new computer and everything was working fine for 4 days and from this morning Windows mail will not let me receive messages....only send them... 6/23/2007 12:09 AM | Joe

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i just upgraded my msn messenger to the new windows live... since then it has been giving everybody on my list who are online a virus... what's wrong with the new windows live? i've never encounter anything like this before... 9/13/2007 9:36 PM | Jannah

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Cant log into my email accounts either... like 4 days alrdy
didnt sign up for nothn.. shits retarded 9/15/2007 3:26 AM | Krussia

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Hotmail has not worked for almost 3 days - WHAT's THE PROBLEM? Is anyone else having the same problem. Using Safari on my Mac and it keeps redirecting and then saying 'can't open page'. Other mail accounts work fine...HELP! 9/15/2007 5:53 AM | Lisa

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does anyone out there know why i cant log onto hotmail from any macs yet from pc's or my blackberry i can? Im not computer savvy so can someone tell me if this is temporary or did hotmail get shut down or some shit???????????

adamkuyt@hotmail.com ill get it on my blackberry 9/17/2007 6:26 AM | adam

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yes my mac does the same thing. i just keep getting redirected when i try to log into my hotmail email account. anybody figured out yet, what i can do about that? 9/18/2007 5:06 AM | Sandra

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anything up with hotmail today (Nov 16, 2007 Japan time)? 11/15/2007 4:47 PM | K

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This is just freakin great... I had no problems with my computer until I used System Mechanics 7 to fix all my computer problems and it erased something in my graphics driver so my screens wouldn't work and now my hotmail will not let me check my mail. Don't know if it's related or not, but I can log in, it just won't let me go to my inbox. I can do it on other computers just not mine. WTF??? I keep getting redirected back to the login screen when I click on the inbox. 12/22/2007 9:01 PM | sepherphithamongusfungusponamtul

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whats right with Live mail...more like the question to be asking..its pathetic 12/23/2007 8:36 AM | Scott

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well... I figured out what the problem was with my scenario. My firewall setting was blocking cookies that were needed to load the inbox. After changing the settings to permit the cookies, everything has been working fine. 12/23/2007 11:47 AM | sepherphithamongusfungusponamtul

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I dont know if anyone who's having this problem is using a Apple Mac computer too, but i was having this problem and I went to a website http://support.microsoft.com/kb/272573/en-us that really helped me. goodluck people! 12/29/2007 2:26 PM | nicole

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I can never send my emails now. I think the problem is too much out sourcing by microsoft with too little supervision. I keep getting the message window microsoft cannot connect you right now....yadda yadda yadda...very fustrating. 2/2/2008 7:31 AM | jerry

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Hotmail is slower than mollasses at the nort pole.

waiting 5 minutes is awful. do I need to switch to g-mail 2/9/2008 5:23 AM | bb31957

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Today, 2-26-08 @ 11:38 AM I tried to log into my windows live mail account. At first it appeared like I was suddenly using 56k dialup. After a few mind-numbing minutes of this I was told in Geek-a-nese that Microsoft F***KED up once again. If EVER I am able to get inot my windows live mail account again, I am letting all my contacts no that from that day on I can be reached at my gmail addy. This is RIDICULOUS and has gone on for far too long. And please, if anyone has a notion to advise me to have patience, the answer will be a hearty laugh directly in that persons face (via this method, naturally). I've put up with this for WAY too long and Microsft is NOT responding to my concerns. I would strongly consider diving off the S.S. Microsft before she lists hard to starboard, and breaks deep taking on water. Lifejackets can be found at www.gmail.com. Thank you for flying Microbrain suicidal airlines and have a wonderful day ;) 2/26/2008 4:45 AM | Crasher_Dave

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Yesterday it was slow logging in to hotmail. Today there is not service at all! GRRR.........I may be on the to gmail. 2/26/2008 5:46 AM | jano1

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I'm SO NOT impressed with live mail! Where's the improvement? I've tried for 4 hours to log into my account and I can't! It says " server unavailable" WTF! 2/26/2008 6:41 AM | LindaD

# A fix: You have to use the Windows Live Mail client!

The online version is freakin' pathetic, so I switched over to using the Windows Live Mail client, available here:

http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview

This one works fine. It's basically Outlook Express with a facelift. Haven't had any problems with this. 2/26/2008 7:16 AM | Lorin Thwaits

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GGRRRRRRR!!

what is the issue today! i can't log into my hotmail account AT ALL! and if you can't log in (i only get a blank page...no error...no nothing!) you can't e-mail their support! does anyone know that contact info?

2/26/2008 8:21 AM | greyeyedgirl

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I Really need to use hotmail >.> When are they gonna fix it ?!?! >.< 4/3/2008 11:55 AM | BigDoggy

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i am trying to use hotmail but cookies keep blocking me how do i solve this problem 4/16/2008 3:54 AM | lynz

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I've been having problems logging in to hotmail since yesterday on my Mac - i decided to restart my computer this afternoon and hey presto problem solved!!!


6/4/2008 3:31 AM | Wens

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Hi, i'm from Indonesia.
A week ago, i can't access my MSn messenger.
also my hotmail.. really2 frustrated with these problem. I have tried many ways to fixed this problem. But it still same, I can't go to microsoft website.. Please, need Anybody to help me..
Also I am using AVG, is that a prboblem ? 7/2/2008 6:57 AM | smurf06

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It worked fine for me til lunch time yesterday, then I get back, and BAM! your account seems to be missing ...I was like WTF?! kept trying, even tried to reset my password but the irony! oh the irony! let's send you the link to your hotmail address to sort your Hotmail problem :oS

so I typed exactly what everybody else was thinking, and here's everyone else! but do we actually have an answer from the Hotmail team?? WHAT IS GOING ON GUYS?! HOW LONG TIL IT'S SOLVED? are we losing all our details, contact, emails? 8/13/2008 9:38 PM | Al

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Microsoft is a joke. Hotmail is down all the time. 8/24/2008 3:48 AM | BillGatesSucks

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Is anyone else having this problem again at the moment? I have not been able to login to hotmail since september 14th (it's now september 17, 2008). I have cleared cache, deleted all cookies, nothing else has changed - same old laptop, OS, (no I don;t use automatic update so windows hasn't updated itself!!) Same old connection - actually 2 of them (work and home). SO ITS NOT ME OR MY MACHINE - IT's BLOODY HOTMAIL!!!!!!!

Anyway, yesterday I snuck in through the live.com frontpage - today not even this is working. Have MS gone broke like the rest of the US and forgotten to tell anyone?

Don't bother emailing me - I won't get it. 9/16/2008 8:31 PM | Robyn Grunberg

# hotmail down yet again 8 oct 2008, this drives me nuts, does anyone know whats gone wrong?

hotmail is down again does anyone know whats wrong or is just my pc??? 8 oct 2008 10/8/2008 5:36 AM | tania levis

# re: What's wrong with Windows Mail Live (aka Hotmail)

THis has gone down for me too and cant get in since sunday night? any idea how we can get in or how quick this can be solved?

I am able to go to the hotmail screen and enter email address andpassword but it wont allow me to go any further?? 10/8/2008 6:50 PM | kirsty

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