MLK -- Much more than "Milk" without the "I"

I want to go on record as saying that I have great respect for Michael King, born 78 years ago today.  We all know him a little better by the name Martin Luther King, Jr.  Various blemishes aside, largely he used his talent to benefit others, and held strong to his goals of freedom and equality.  I greatly respect that.  His tenacity is evidenced in the setting where he first heard he had won the Nobel peace prize: after being admitted to the hospital while suffering extreme fatigue during his efforts.

Most of us know of the various events of the civil rights movement, so I won't reiterate the history.  Some have profound appreciation for what happened, and some other Americans think that today shouldn't even be a national holiday.  I fear that the majority are simply complacant.  If this is you then maybe my words can have some kind of effect.  On this day of remembrance I'd like to attempt to bring the ideas and zeal of Martin Luther King back to life in the context of the current Iraq conflict.

Just days ago the world has been shaped by the decision to send yet another deployment into a sandy version of the Vietnam war.  20,000 more troops.  The message I get is that we're trying to win this thing by simply having more force.  That part of the battle is long over, and it lasted only a little over a month: from March 20th, 2003, until May 1st when Bush announced victory.  But unlike Vietnam this is not a battle with fixed lines.  From May 1st, 2003 forward this is a battle for mindshare.  The same kind of battle Martin Luther King fought and won.  Heck, it's the same battle that Apple Computer is fighting and winning in the software world.  Perhaps the president could learn from an Iraqi equivalent of Steve Jobs.

On this day of remembrance, I ponder what it would be like if the hard-working Martin Luther King were in office.  Could we as a whole nation attempt to better understand the true character of our so-called "enemy"?  Could we lay aside religious and social differences long enough to realize that at the core we really have similar ideas and goals?  By some miracle could money become less important, and respect for overall human welfare more important?  I expect I'm asking the impossible.  The current American political system is structured so that it's nearly impossible for the real peacemakers of the world -- the Kings, Mandelas, and Ghandis -- to climb the ranks and make the big decisions.  Thank goodness some of them are so adamant that they will not allow their voice to be drowned out.  They insist on change, even if the cost is their own life.

So how long will Iraq last?  15 ridiculous years like Vietnam?  My son is now 10.  I don't want his name listed on the next memorial to be erected in the National Mall.  If we don't learn from the past then that scenario is entirely possible.

Considering all that went on in Vietnam, the cost is incalculable.  I think of those noble young patriots who chose not to back down when their country was in need.  They stood up for freedom, and for what they felt was a just cause.  They gave it their all.  And the presidential leadership back then seems to have had just about as much of a plan put together as the current administration does for Iraq.  When will we have a Gerald Ford enter the Oval office and pull out the troops?  When will enough be enough?

Dr. King, we need you.  What would you do about our current conflict in Iraq?  Those in Washington have talked about current conflicts requiring completely different tactics.  Okay then, are they, and are we, brave enough to try approaching the situation in a non-violent way?  I wish these kinds of conflict resolution skills were made into a course of study we all take at school!  As such I applaud various efforts folks are making such as this.

Maybe you agree with me, and maybe you don't.  Let's hear what you have to say.


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# re: MLK -- Much more than "Milk" without the "I"

Hi Lorin...

In years past, the government operated for good and bad without everybody knowing everything that was going on. I'd certainly hope that we, the US public, don't know *everything* that all the military and political advisors know.

I do know that one man does not have the power that everyone seems to think the President has. And I do know that each president spends probably half his time recovering from what the previous president has done, and in Bush's case that was a lot.

I also know that I wouldn't take that job for any amount of money, because no matter what you do for whatever reason, you're going to be half wrong.

We've had an all-volunteer military since 1973, and anyone that joined the military and trained to use weapons and fight hand-to-hand thinking that they wouldn't have to use those skills were deceiving themselves as well as families that have a problem with the fact that their son's were killed doing what they wanted to do and were trained to do.

I'm proud to have served in the U.S. Army 1970-1973. It took 3 years out of my education, set me back 3 years in my career, but I did it.

It's ok to be non-violent as long as both parties agree, but I don't think that's going to happen.

At the same time, I'd have to agree it's time to pull out. 1/16/2007 7:05 AM | Dave

# re: MLK -- Much more than "Milk" without the "I"

MLK was a great man. He did great things for our country, especially for the black people of our country, but for the country as a whole as well.

I wish more of today's leaders were in MLK's mold. I ESPECIALLY wish our black leaders were in MLK's mold. Farrakan, Sharpton, and to a lesser degree Jackson are a cancer on our society, and leading black people down a very bad road. There are still problems that black people face. And racism is still out there. But these "leaders" cause WAY more problems than any progress they help solve.

I don't object up front to MLK having a day in theory, but in reality, I do have an objection to his day. Not because he isn't worthy (he probably is). But because he isn't MORE worthy than everyone else we could be honoring. Washington? Lincon? Franklin? JFK? Roosevelt? All lumped into "Presidents day". Is MLK really "worth" more than any of those others? More than every other important non president?

In context, it is understandable. Giving MLK a day was an admission of guilt for past wrongdoings. A sign of willingness to move forward in good faith.

Regarding Vietnam and Iraq. You are drinking too much of the moonbat juice. (I would refer to a particular drink normally, but since we are talking about MLK above, I want to avoid any stereotypes! :) )

It doesnt matter if you agree with the war or not. Or agreed with the START of the war, but object to it now. It doesnt matter if objectively the war is right or wrong (for the purposes of this particular argument)

The two wars have very little in common, other than the fact that we are fighting against guerrillas in both cases.

According to Antiwar.com (clearly someone who is not going to be underestimating deaths), total deaths in Iraq for US personnel are 3020.

Every death (on our side our theirs) is tragic, and regrettable. But that doesn't mean they weren't effective, or reasonable.

In vietnam, we were getting 1000-2000 deaths PER MONTH. (Using numbers from http://volokh.com/posts/chain_1104257935.shtml which are really from members.aol.com/warlibrary/vwc24.htm)

3000 total, vs 1000 per month in a 5 year war. If we made every war decision based on the number of deaths, we never would have had D day. Anyone think that was a bad choice?

I apologize here for switching over to the #s argument. I realize you personally weren't making that argument, but you did draw the comparison to Vietnam, and the #s are a core part of that comparison. I am not attempting to put words in your mouth :)

I admit the possibility that we will lose the war. I admit the certainty that things aren't going to turn out exactly like we want. I admit the possibility that the whole thing was a bad idea, and we never should have started down the road.

HOWEVER, the media, and the left in general have definitely pushed us more to the lose side that we could have been. Their words and actions embolden our enemies, and are giving those of us back home horribly distorted versions of whats going on, in many cases directly repeating the propaganda of our enemies as impartial news reports.

I am not accusing these people of not being true Americans, or not being patriotic, or any of that crap. And I am not calling for censorship.

I am calling them short sighted, and stupid. Putting short term political gain in front of what is good for the country (and the world). There are a lot more effective ways to work towards goals (even if the goal is ending the war and pulling out) without directly helping the other side.

The left is abandoning their core goals because its politically expedient. The people we are fighting (virtually) enslave their women - that beating them or killing them is entirely in a husband's rights, think actual ownership of slaves is just fine, and think the thing to do with gays is hang them or crush them under walls. Yet the left sides with our enemies time after time. The enemy of our enemy is our friend, but you have to decide where your priorities are.

Ok, I went a little further off topic with this comment than I expected. But I needed a vent, and you gave me the opening. Sorry for the rant :) But you did say lets hear what you have to say!
1/16/2007 7:40 AM | Jason

# re: MLK -- Much more than "Milk" without the "I"

Lorin -

Anything supported by Dennis Kucinich is something that I'd be very wary about. He's just way too far to the left to be reasonable to most Americans.

Department of Peace? Um..yeah.

With regards to Iraq, if we leave now, it will be a bloodbath. My roomate is currently serving in Iraq, a Leutenant in a intel unit, and has advised me that yes, they need more troops (lots of fires to put out, not enough bodies to do it). Also, he believes that the best way to stabilize Iraq over the long term is to actually split it into three separate parts (Kurdish, Sunni, and Shiite), and then take it from there.

If we leave Iraq to escape the war...well, the war will simply come to us.

I saw an interesting Sig line on a message board I frequent:

"Jesus Loves Me. Mohammed Wants Me Dead." 1/18/2007 12:28 PM | Steve F.

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