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In a few years, will there be no John Carmack involved in the gaming industry anymore? There is an interview in the Game Over column on CNN.com where John Carmack hints that after the next iD project, he might retire. Of course, there were rumors that he would retire after Doom 3 also, and now he has signed on for another project post-Doom 3. If John Carmack does retire though, I think the gaming industry will be losing one of its brightest programmers. Granted, I don't believe that iD as a company has released the most intriguing games. However, the engines that Carmack pumps out through iD are amazing. For years now, John Carmack has been one of the primary developers that have been pushing the bar forward with his ground-breaking renderers and engines. And not to mention that he always open-sources his engines after a set amount of time. I know that, personally, I have learned quite a bit from reading the source code for Doom and Quake. He definitely will be missed.

Since history has a nasty habit of repeating itself, I suppose the true question to ask is not “Will John Carmack retire?”, but “When John Carmack retires, who will step up and fill his shoes?”

Posted on Thursday, September 9, 2004 1:44 PM Game Development , General Interest | Back to top


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Hey man, keep going on your game development endeavors, and perhaps you can be "the next John Carmack".

Left by codeWarrior on Sep 09, 2004 3:56 PM

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Ha! I doubt it, but thanks! I think it will be some kid in his teens that has been programming games since the age of 14 or 15. Now while I am young at heart, I think it will take a youngster to come up and fill the shoes properly.
Left by Jason Olson on Sep 09, 2004 5:23 PM

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Carmack has real influence at ATI and NVidia. Amazing when you think about it. The only other name that comes to mind is Tim Sweeney - though I don't know whether or not he also has influence with the hardware companies.
Left by Chris on Sep 09, 2004 11:17 PM

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Chris -

Exactly!! That's why I think he will be dearly missed. He was a great connection between the game industry and the hardware companies. While someone may be able to step up and develop great engines, it will take a truly special person to fill in that same role between the gaming industry and the hardware manufacturers.
Left by Jason Olson on Sep 09, 2004 11:47 PM

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With all due respect to Carmack, I think the "video card" industry will be hit harder than the game industry. While his work is impressive, it has not made better games, as you admit. You could argue that it has "enabled" better games - for example, the creators of Half-Life were able to dedicate more time to great gameplay, instead of writing an engine from scratch. But once we had the Quake 2 engine, has anything new (regarding gameplay) been enabled that game designers can take advantage of, to make better games?
Certainly we have better looking games, and we spend more on video cards, but do we have better games?

For some perspective, check out Chris Sawyer's Locomotion, just released this month. It uses a 10 year old graphics engine (and it shows). But it is a great game. Sure, that's a different genre. Even if you want to stick to the same genre, you don't have to look very far. Don't you think Half-Life was a better game than Doom 3? For some people, Locomotion's dated graphics may actually reduce their enjoyment. I can accept that. But can you really say the same of Half-Life? If you sit and play Half-Life now, do you think to yourself "haha, this is silly, I can't believe I used to play games that looked this bad"? I would guess that you probably don't really notice.

Anyway, my point is, Carmack's contributions have been invaluable, but do we still need a Carmack to get great games?
Left by Joshua Flanagan on Sep 22, 2004 6:06 PM

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Good points Joshua. I think the tie between the video card industry and the gaming industry will be weaker. Personally, when it comes to "gameplay", I would argue that John Carmack hasn't invented or progressed any game play elements since Doom. Most of iD's products have been just better and better looking, and not exactly revolutionalizing game play.

I think when you look at how realistic other games on the market are (that are non-iD engine games), and it is clear that there are others willing to step up and fill Carmack's shoes when it comes to continuing the push towards photo-realism. However, I still do think that Carmack's contribution will be missed.

I perhaps hate to admit it on this blog, but the game that has had me more hooked to the computer in a long time is actually The Sims 2. Not Doom 3.
Left by Jason Olson on Sep 22, 2004 6:16 PM

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I'm not worried, Carmack may "retire", disappear for 6 months to a year. Then come back with some new software concept, maybe even entirely unrelated to games. When it's in your blood you can't retire even if you want to.
Left by robdelacruz on Sep 24, 2004 10:35 PM

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