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Request for Assistance: Computer will not power on

I have a Dell Dimension 4550 desktop that died Friday. The computer shutdown fine but when I proceeded to move it from one office to another, it would no longer power on. I spent more hours than I should have trying to diagnose and narrow down the problem and I think I have a good idea where it is.

Stage 1: Power Supply

To test this as the possible cause, I have a ATX power supply tester. It tests the large connection to the motherboard to verify that the power supply is working. I've used this on a power supply that is hosed so I know when it needs to be replaced. When hooking this up to the current power supply, the fan cuts on and because I left the hard drives connected they also spin up. This is completely opposite from what would happen if the power supply were hosed.

Mitigating circumsatances: I don't know if the tester has a way of testing the 4 prong “power on“ connector that connects to the motherboard. It could be that the power supply works but this power on connector does not.

Stage 2: Motherboard

The motherboard has a “standby power“ light that comes on when the power supply is plugged into the motherboard. The network connection has a LED for when the ethernet cable is plugged in and this light also comes on. This light isn't dependent on power and functions even if the computer is turned off. Realistically the computer draws a small amount of power whenever it's connected regardless of the power switch being turned on. Everything indicates this is happening as it should but it could be a false positive. Motherboards can be finicky.

Stage 3: Power switch

This seems to be the only logical choice. This is connected to a board that is mounted against the front of the case and then a proprietary looking cable connects this to the motherboard. From this “I/O Front Panel” another cable goes through the case and connects to the power switch on the front of the computer. I cannot verify this is connected properly because I can't seem to get to the connection. I've tried pulling on the cable slightly and everything seems in place but it's possible one pin isn't seated or the entire thing isn't connected as it should be. It's possible this is not a connection->connection cable but has one end that connects and the other end is fused into the power switch somehow.

Summary

Everything indicates this is a power problem since the computer will not POST. I want to narrow this down to the power supply, motherboard, or power switch before I call Dell and speak to someone I can barely understand. This will also help me bypass their scripts and get right down to the exact issue without spending hours on the phone. If anyone can think of anything I should try, please let me know. I'm fishing for ideas because I'm all out of them and I want to exhaust every avenue before I go the warranty/replacement route.

Print | posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 12:01 PM | Filed Under [ Information Technology ]

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# re: Request for Assistance: Computer will not power on

I may be wrong about the power supply. Not all of the LEDs light up and I thought it was because the 20-pin connector has one pin missing. The only LED that doesn't light up is the -5V. I haven't tested our other Dell power supplies to see if they have the same pattern.

I've also found possibly the only tester I'll need. It has the 4-pin connector I'm talking about so that I can verify every part is working.

I'll get that ordered so that when I go in on Friday I'll be able to check everything once and for all. Now it's looking like a failing power supply though it seems very weird if this is the case.
8/10/2005 12:21 PM | Jeremy Brayton
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# re: Request for Assistance: Computer will not power on

Never mind that. It beeps and the light that's not on is not connected per the manual. This suggests the power supply is okay but I'm still getting a new tester so that I can test the 4-pin 12v connection. That could still be shot.

Argh? Yes. Argh.
8/12/2005 11:30 AM | Jeremy Brayton
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# re: Request for Assistance: Computer will not power on

Jeremy, Its been my experience that 9 times out of ten if the PC dies or acts weird, its the power supply unit. I always keep a spare on hand.
8/19/2005 1:45 PM | Dave Burke
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# re: Request for Assistance: Computer will not power on

Dave, it appears you're most likely correct. I did a search today on the web and their forums and it appears that everything I have done still does not rule out a power supply failure. In fact, some people have reported the very same symptoms that went away with a replacement.

The power supply works fine in the tester, but that is most likely because it's not drawing full power as the motherboard+peripherals would most likely do. I have had a power supply completely fail and not work at all in a tester, which is why this threw me off.

The power supply I ordered should be here by next week. I'll put it in and comment on what happened.

Thanks for your input
8/31/2005 12:30 PM | Jeremy Brayton
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# re: Request for Assistance: Computer will not power on

Definately the power supply, which royally sucks. This means I can't trust a power supply tester to rule out a defective power supply. That means I wasted $20 twice though in certain instances (non-Dell) they might work as expected.

Severely lame.
9/9/2005 11:15 AM | Jeremy Brayton
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