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My VMware install is complete and running.  As I hinted to in my previous article the video display on setup and first boot is terrible.  After first boot I was able to find out it was running at 4–bit color.  :-)  No wonder it looked bad.  Anyway…  it’s the VMware video.

The install went without error.  Vista b1 will install on VMware v5 build 13124.  Now… it’s just no fun without decent video so in comes VMtools.  This is where is goes down hill, a little.  First off the VMtools video driver will install and works just fine although auto guest resizing when going from full screen to window doesn’t work.  That’s Ok though… no one said it was supposed to work.  We’re just trying it anyway.  It’s good enough to use until VMware pushes a new build to us.

Drag and Drop from VM desktop to host machine doesn’t work.  Host to guest just gives the NO cursor and guest to host almost make you smile then hits you with a “Cannot get attributes” or something like that.  I could only make it error out once then subsequent tries just resulted in nothing happening.

Audio doesn’t work.  The driver just won’t install.  I haven’t banged around on it but I did try to force an install and only received an error about making sure my driver was for a 32–bit machine.

Audio does work but I had to download the Soundblaster PCI 128 driver from Creative directly.  I was unable to get the driver packaged with VMtools to work.  See my article above: Sound support with VMware v5 build 13124 without VMtools  I provided the link in that article for the driver that works.

The network driver WILL install.  I was unable to get it to install from the VMtools setup but I was able to install it from Device Manager and pointing it to the Program Files/VMware/VMware Tools/Drivers/vmxnet folder.

I can’t decide if USB passthrough works or not.  I can get Vista to see my USB printer but it doesn’t like the drivers but it won’t even bark at my SanDisk Jump Drive.  Perhaps a setting?  Perhaps it just doesn’t work.

That’s my initial observations.  It installs with a few hickups but nothing major.  I imagine VMware will have a new build out that support B1 in the very near future.  Tomorrow at the office I’ll see if VPC does any better.  :-)

I’ll leave you with a couple of IE7 shots.  The first is of the RSS toolbar option and the second is what it does with the feed.  Click for the full image.  It’s pretty neat.  I don’t think it will replace a desktop aggregator but it’s still cool.  It’s not like the Firefox way of doing it, which I personally like.  IE displays a special page with the feed on it.  It may be configurable however to display the feed like Firefox does, in a cascading menu.  These are just initial observations here people.  Have fun with Beta 1.

If you don't get your question answered here or are having a specific problem please feel free to browse this site further or check out the Windows Vista Beta 1 forum courtesy of the South Central Indiana .NET Users Group.

Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 11:41 PM Software , Windows Vista | Back to top


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Thanks for the comments Eric. I haven't tried virtual server yet, just virtual pc. I am not running a server OS on my laptop so I don't have that option as of yet. I have a basic understanding of VMWare and since they gave away free copies of it at Tech*Ed I may play with it some more. I am also anxious to see how the IE beta shapes up.
Left by Chris Haaker on Jul 28, 2005 8:08 AM

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just a quick thank you, i had the network problem and a quick google of "vmware vista" found this site, and now my problems sorted, so thanks. :)
Left by T. on Jul 31, 2005 12:31 AM

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do u have a copy of the os windows vista link download that you can email to me i dont need the cd key i already have that
-matt
Left by matt on Aug 01, 2005 8:52 PM

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I get a no physical hard drive found to install temporary files. what can i do?
Left by shai on Aug 01, 2005 10:12 PM

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I've read other people's posts about this error. The best I can offer is size. Make sure you aren't starving the installer of diskspace. Create a nice large virtual disk for it. I don't know if it has anything to do with it but that is the common suggestion I'm seeing. I always give my XP, and now Vista, VMs a 30GB expanding disk. I don't ever need that much but it is much easier to give it at first than it is later with PartitionMagic. :-) Let us know if more disk space helps. I'll try and recreate this today.
Left by Eric Hammersley on Aug 02, 2005 7:06 AM

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I just recreated this and posted my results. Check my site for the post. It is disk space and my test revealed you need at least 8GB for it to complete.
Left by Eric Hammersley on Aug 02, 2005 9:14 AM

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You have been a great help to me.

Tip: Vista Install MUST have 512MB minimum to install. It uses a RAMdisk during installation. Otherwise it will NOT install.
Left by Wim on Aug 03, 2005 4:35 AM

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Thanks for the sound help.. I'm trying it now but I'm sure it'll work...

They didnt even have any help on the virtual pc developers blog (interesting to say the least) and the only way around the "mount ISO" problem is to mount the iso as a virtual drive (pain in the ass)..

But I digress.. other then the uber lag in vista I can say that I think it has some nice improovements and I'm looking forward to beta 2!
Left by Auger282 on Aug 07, 2005 5:27 AM

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I'm glad you found what you needed.

I too find it interesting that the VirtualPC developers blog has no information or help.

You're right about the ISO issue, you either burn the DVD or mount it as a drive.

Another thing with VPC is that they emulate an ISA sound card and from what I've read they've removed all support for ISA cards from Vista... so, no sound in VPC is possible. Of course VMware works just fine. :-)
Left by Eric Hammersley on Aug 07, 2005 9:22 AM

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please send my the download line i have the cd code
Left by spencer on Aug 14, 2005 3:02 PM

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my email is spencerbooth@gmail.com
Left by spencer on Aug 14, 2005 3:03 PM

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Do u know where can I download the Asus a7n8x-x network driver for windows vista?
'cause I took a deeeeEEeeeEEp look just arround the internet (includin' official sites, :P) 'n' couldn't find it!!!
So if u can gimme some cheats about it please e-mail me at: tales.souza@gmail.com

ty very much...

by the way... graz by havin' it workin' in your PC! :D
Left by Tales on Aug 15, 2005 12:35 PM

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email : bui_duynghia@yahoo.com
Left by duy on Aug 15, 2005 10:26 PM

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Please send me the download like for Vista...
Left by Ninjaboy_jr on Aug 16, 2005 11:23 PM

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I have waited so long for windows vista please send me a link where to download it please give me that link

My email:
s.lauris@gmail.com
Left by micro on Aug 24, 2005 4:10 AM

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plese send me the download
Left by dani on Sep 01, 2005 11:22 AM

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please send me the link to download the win vista!

my e-mail is: xtreme007_@hotmail.com

thnks! :)
Left by juaN CARLOS on Sep 03, 2005 11:42 PM

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Ladies and Gentlemen,

I will not provide the download to anyone. I received it through proper channels (MSDN) and I will not redistribute it. I apologize if you feel as though I'm being an ass but honestly... you'll get over it.

I'm sure if you try hard enough you'll find a copy of it somewhere. It will however not come from me.
Left by Eric Hammersley on Sep 04, 2005 5:16 PM

# Network adapter problem
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Hm, still failed to install network adapter driver. When trying to install driver from \VMWare Tools\Drivers\vmxnet I recieve an error in the Install Hardware Wizard. Device Manager shows "device is not configured correctly (code 1)" for network adapter. Do you know how to resolve this?

PS Win Vista Beta 1 Build 5112
Left by Alexey on Sep 19, 2005 9:57 AM

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hi.
I m testing Windows Vista. Can you help me, I search drivers for Asus A7n8x, USB and ethernet. Send me a mail or contact me by msn --> dams77600@msn.com

thkx
Left by drivers vista for Asus A7N8X on Sep 28, 2005 6:12 AM

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Hi! I would like to know where did you actually download that Windows Vista? I would like to try it as I was finding for a website for free download the whole night but my searches were to 0...but if you don't provide the URL for the download, please do at least send me the folder, your help is appreciated...

Do send it to me by this email address: uhowie@hotmail.com
I do use Messenger!
Left by Howie on Sep 30, 2005 8:55 AM

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Attempting to run Vista Beta 2 on GSX server (2003 host). Everthing running great, EXCEPT!!! the @#$% nic driver.

Have installed the driver manually from device manager via the VMware tools virtual cd. Sounds like it works on Workstation 5. Possible the GSX flavor of vmxnet doesn't work.

Anyone have the sys driver file for Workstation 5?
Left by Greg on Oct 11, 2005 5:51 PM

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Hello. I am running Vista 5219 on VMware 5.5 from a Windows XP Media Center Laptop P4 HT 3.0Ghz 2G of ram (I only assigned 512MB)
I had the trouble with the video driver as it would not install but then i thought to download the latest version of VMtools. That driver worked.
Had no trouble at all with the network drivers.
I had trouble with the built in sound driver but the Creative drivers worked.
I have a Lexar USB JumpDrive that ran fine in Vista. Auto detected hardware right away. Maybe try looking for new drivers on the manufacturers website, or call them and ask if they are supporting the Vista Betas as some companies are.
I have been running benchmarks on this VM with Vista and still haven't locked it up yet. I keep reading of how everyone's pc's keep lagging or freezing. I haven't had one problem. In fact through my tests, Vista is actually running 13% faster than XP. (And thats through emulation!!! I can't wait until I try it on a physical drive.)
If anyone has any questions feel free to email me. For your convenience I included my email in the URL link. If that doesn't work then it is onestoppcshopwebresponse@comcast.net
And please don't spam me or sign me up for spammail. I have had that before where I offer me email to help and then get it up the @$$ later on. Anyways, always glad to answer questions or help.
Left by Evan on Oct 18, 2005 9:40 PM

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oh...sorry. I forgot to put my email in the post..here is mine: minhtien08@hotmail.com thank
Left by minhtien on Nov 12, 2005 4:52 AM

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can i install trial version of windows vista
Left by Michael B. Gecozo on Nov 17, 2005 11:44 PM

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Michael, While I can't say for certain I will say that Vista is in Beta status and I do not believe there is any "trial" version available.
Left by Eric Hammersley on Nov 18, 2005 5:11 AM

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I like it
Left by Lance on Nov 21, 2005 5:51 AM

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hi,
i am so much interested in using vista.
plz someone give me the link, from where i should download from.
my id is : jayabhaskar.k@gmail.com
Left by jay on Dec 12, 2005 2:32 AM

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Any one tried installing it on VMware 5.5 yet, I am in the process of creating the hard drive and wondered if anyone had had any problems with it.
Left by Andrew Barr on Dec 20, 2005 2:32 AM

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That's a really good question Andrew, I have not. Please post your results once you complete. I'm sure everyone is interested.
Left by Eric Hammersley on Dec 20, 2005 5:18 AM

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please send me link b.malhi4u@gmail.com

thanks
Left by Bal on Jan 12, 2006 1:43 AM

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:-)

At first I was deleting the requests then I quickly gave up.

Mike is right, I have no desire to put my ass on the line by distributing beta software against EULA. Thank you for that Mike, I appreciate it.
Left by Eric Hammersley on Feb 01, 2006 4:23 PM

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is this the Windows Xp Vista OS?
Left by David on Mar 01, 2006 4:13 AM

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Hi,

Not sure anyone is still watching this thread, I am trying to install vista on a virtual pc VMware 5.5. I can get past the mounting the virtual CD and or the using the iso file to start the install, my issue is the hard disc. I am using a usb 2.0 external hard disc to house the virtual disc 20GB. When i get to the part about selecting the disc i want to install to, it doesnt do anything, I format the disc and still nothing happens. Yes I can see the disc, but it will not let me progress past it, the "next" button never activates. Has anyone seen this before?
Left by Hotcupajo on Apr 30, 2006 8:23 AM

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Hi, I just finished installing vista beta 2 cpp on vmware players (using eazy VMX builder) and it workd great after the VMWare tools for video/mouse drivers and the creative link for sound. Thanks!!
Left by JS on Jun 15, 2006 12:18 PM

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I have been unable to install the VMTools with Vista b2. Any suggestions would be welcome. Sick of trying to change the video display from 4bit
Left by bdog on Jun 25, 2006 2:50 AM

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Vista Beta 1 install on VMware v5 build 13124
Left by Shabir on Sep 17, 2006 3:55 AM

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For all you asking where you can download Windows Vista you're out of luck. Microsoft released a beta download months ago but since has removed it from their site. Now if you want to download through legit chanels you have to register with MS as a beta tester.

That being said, I believe you can still find copies available on torrentspy.com, that's where I found mine :)

Hope that helps
Left by Drew on Sep 30, 2006 4:09 AM

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Not sure about the beta - but RC1 is publically available to anyone with a "live" (read: passport) account... Takes an hour to download the full DVD (if you have FIOS, of course :)))
Left by Erez on Sep 30, 2006 9:08 AM

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i was able to run windows vista beta 1 on 256mb of ram but my pc that has it on i have lost the disk could someone please tell me where i can redownload vista beta 1 my email address is toby_pc@hotmail.co.uk
Left by toby on Nov 11, 2006 11:12 AM

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Hi I am trying to install Windows Vista in VM Ware. I did change the CD Drive read location to image of vista set up file. But after switching on VM Ware all I see is
" Windows is loading files" screen, thats it, nothing further than that. Could some one be kind enough to tell me, what am I doing wrong here, or what could be the root of this problem.

Cheers
Huda
Left by Huda on Nov 18, 2006 7:51 PM

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thanks, for tip about network install
Left by Sam on Dec 05, 2006 11:50 AM

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The solution about adding sound to W Vista working on VMWare is just doing the windowsupdate, it resolves the problem by installing te correct drivers automatically
Left by Jordi on Feb 17, 2007 11:15 AM

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ples send for me vmware 6beta
Left by Esmail on Jun 05, 2007 3:50 AM

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