MSN Desktop Search Resources

I’ve decided to compile the information I’ve found useful when reading about the MSN Toolbar Suite beta.


NEW 7/13/2005 - If you're just stumbling upon my blog, a lot has happened since this post:

1) I've been hired by MS.
2) We have released the MSN Toolbar with Windows Desktop Search
3) We've released an SDK!


  Tips and Tricks:

·         Installing on Windows Server 2003 THIS IS NOW SUPPORTED IN THE CURRENT RELEASE.  PLEASE UPGRADE BY VISITING HTTP://desktop.msn.com

o        Run “MSNToolbarSuiteSetup_en-us.exe /c” to unpack and then
“msiexec /i MsnToolbarSuite.msi TBSDEVCODE=1“

THIS IS UNSUPPORTED, and though it installs, you may encounter problems.  There, you're warned ;)  Numerous reports have been that it works fine, however.

I'm hoping to hear from the MSN DS team soon about whether the next release will address this issue, and when we'll get a 64-bit version.

·         Don’t like the buttons on the DeskBar?

o       Open Regedit and go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\MSN Apps\DB
Next, add a DWORD value with the name of "Buttons" and change the value of "Buttons" to "1". On your toolbar, uncheck the MSN Deskbar to clear it from your toolbar then re-check it to add it again without the buttons.

·         Keyboard shorcuts.  If you set the shortcut to “Shift+S” you can use “Windows Key + S” to open the deskbar.  Same for any other letter.

·         Type “=” followed by a “run” command to execute it (ie. “=cmd” will open a command prompt).

·         Type “@” in the bar to see some information about shortcuts you can add.

o       If you type “@cmd,=cmd” you can create a shortcut that will open a command prompt when you type “cmd” and press enter.

o       You can use the “$w” parameter to specify an input field for your shortcut.  For an example, see below.

·         You can add UNC paths to the index list.  Thusly, you can search any anonymously accessible network shares, such as \\jonscomputer\music

Custom Searches:

            As I said above, the $w parameter allows you to make custom search queries.  For instance, you can type @google,http://www.google.com/search?q=$w to create a google query.  Then, when you want to run a google search, just type google something to search google for “something”.

            Furthermore, you can see a list of your current shortcuts by looking in the \Documents and Settings\YourName\Application Data directory for the file MsnDeskbarShortcuts.ini.

·          Here are some of mine:

NEW

ra==runas /user:administrator $w

rc==runas /user:administrator cmd

word= =winword

cmd= =cmd

d=http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=$w

g=http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=$w

kb=http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;$w

m=http://beta.search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=$w

rl=http://411.com/search/Reverse_Phone?phone=$w

gg=http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=$w

 

If you find those useful, you can paste them right in to your MsnDeskbarShortcuts.ini file (you may have to reload the toolbar to make them work, not sure).

Links

MSN Search Blog

Channel 9 interview + demo with the Silicon Valley MSN Search team – Very cool.

Channel 9 interview + demo with the Redmond MSN Search Team – haven’t watched this one yet.

DeskbarShortcuts.com

Full listing of advanced search syntax

Gary Boone on using the DeskBar to launch custom scripts!  Cool Samples included!

Channel 9's list of Desktop Search Hacks - VERY nice list.


Feedback

# re: MSN Desktop Search Resources

This is great, thanks! 12/14/2004 8:40 AM | Senkwe

# re: MSN Desktop Search Resources

I do find all this really informative, but i m really disappointed by msn toolbar, IMHO for indexing Document kind of files nothing beats Copernic and for searching *all* (not indexing) kind of files (as you type) is AVAFIND, much ahead of its time, gives softwares like Turbo Search a run for their money!!
Way to go AVAFIND! 12/14/2004 1:30 PM | Bhavesh

# re: MSN Desktop Search Resources

What does Copernic search that MSNDS does not?

For me, it has indexed the contents of all my media files, office files, text files, and source code (aspx, cs, cpp, etc.) files. I haven't really found anything that it's missed, at least not yet.

I did like Copernic very much, but the MSN product seems slicker, and faster. And it's the little things (like drag-and-drop, and full-blown shell context menus) that really make it shine. 12/14/2004 1:30 PM | Brandon Paddock

# re: MSN Desktop Search Resources

By the way Brandon, I installed the app on my 2003 server machine using your hack. Unfortunately, it fails to index either of my two drives even though it says "indexing completed". So perhaps you should add a warning to your blog post that the tool is still unlikely to work on 2003 server.

Thanks. 12/14/2004 2:39 PM | Senkwe

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Oops, my bad. I think there's a definite bug in the system. If you don't have some version of Outlook running on your system, the app simply won't index anything even though you choose to ignore mail indexing. I ran outlook (even though I don't use it at home) and it's now happily indexing both drives. I'll post a bug for this. 12/14/2004 2:45 PM | Senkwe

# re: MSN Desktop Search Resources

Hmm, I have not tried that hack (yet), but have heard some say that it works.

Are you sure you enabled scanning of those drives in the Options dialog? By default, MSN DS only scans your e-mail and My Documents (which, oddly, seems to include a bit more than just the My Documents folder... but not much more).

If you selected those drives and it still isn't working, then there's clearly an issue. I'll look into it soon. For now, I'll add the warning as you suggest. 12/14/2004 1:46 PM | Brandon Paddock

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Ah okay, glad to see you figured it out :) 12/14/2004 2:49 PM | Brandon Paddock

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Can someone please please tell me how to lose the msn/butterfly logo from the deskbar searchbox!! love it apart from that! 12/20/2004 7:15 PM | steve

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Nice article.
Added some instructions for ... those of us who aren't too familiar with /c /t: in my post. :) 12/29/2004 5:32 AM | Kaisa M. Lindahl

# re: MSN Desktop Search Resources

Hehe, good thinking. I guess I figured anyone running Windows Server 2003 with a desktop search Beta would be able to figure that one out ;) 12/29/2004 10:04 AM | Brandon Paddock

# re: MSN Desktop Search Resources

Betas are one thing, command prompt entries something else entirely. I'm a developer, not a techie. ;) 12/30/2004 6:31 PM | Kaisa M. Lindahl

# re: MSN Desktop Search Resources

Thank you very much for the tips!
2/8/2005 1:33 AM | Vinod Ponmanadiyil

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i have a problem everytime it reaches 100% it says shadowing and then its says indexing paused because computer is busy. please help. 2/8/2005 7:47 PM | Rajan

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The toolbar can also be extended with scripting languages such as VBScript or JavaScript. I've created a couple of examples here:

http://www.accenture.com/boone

For example, one script allows you to type "pr xxxxx" to hear a pronunciation. The script parses a dictionary website and plays the audio file of the pronunciation with a single command.

The other example allows you to type "map work to xxxx" to bring up a Google Map with the route between your work location and 'xxxx'. The script parses 'work' or 'home' into address before sending them to Google, making it easy to plot routes.

Unlike simple shortcuts, these hacks allow greater control without requiring a development environment.
3/28/2005 2:27 PM | Gary Boone

# re: MSN Desktop Search Resources

nice one !!

hey is there a way to prevent the window from appearing once you type in your search ? ex i use google a lot so the search results in the search result window that appears everytime the deskbar gets focus is not really desired 5/17/2005 8:22 AM | kk

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Former GWBer and now MSFTy Brandon Paddock has released an app for Windows Vista that gives you the shortcut... 2/28/2007 11:31 AM | TangibleThoughts

# re: MSN Desktop Search Resources

something got wrong and I lost msn ds... no use ecovering the system to an old point..
question: were keeps the search results to save them before I install a new version?
(it does not let me re-install the current one..) 3/14/2007 3:08 PM | armengol

# re: MSN Desktop Search Resources

I uninstalled Windows Desktop Search. It was slowing my computer down to a painful crawl with the indexing process always running in the background. Whenever I end-tasked the process it would just restart itself. Anyway, now Outlook takes forever to find an email when I search.

Can you tell me if there is a way to JUST have Windows Desktop Search ONLY index my emails and not anything on the rest of my computer?

And, it there a way to set the old Search Companion as the default when pressing F3 to search? Windows Desktop Search most often said something like "That folder's not indexed, click here to use Search Companion instead." I would rather have Search Companion default for searching everything besides email.

Hope you can help. Thank you for you time.
Rebekah 9/20/2007 6:19 AM | Rebekah

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