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Now this is very interesting news because with all the interest around VDI there is still no real alternative to ICA other than RDP (or VNC...?) and in this I'm not even going to consider Ncomputing's WoIP, as from a techies point of view this would appear to simply be a rehash of RDP, although I'm prepared to be convinced otherwise?

But it might be exciting to see that there is a real possible alternative to the ICA/RDP stranglehold and this might have the makings of some interesting changes to how things might be approached in the VDI space?

******UPDATE******
As a consequence of this post I have been contacted by Ncomputing and it would appear that their WoIP is actually what they term a combination of UTMA and UXP and does indeed make the connection/transition/session at a lower level in the stack. However, you will not find much detail on the inner workings of this as it's proprietary, and I'm still trying to understand how this all plays out with regards to the Microsoft Licensing side of things as detailed here in a post on their Forum
http://ncomputing.com/ncomputing/wbb2/thread.php?threadid=963&hilightuser=1087

If/when I find out more I'll update either here, or as a separate post on my new blog at www.techagility.info
******UPDATE******

Qumranet leaves stealth mode and enters VDI market with Solid ICE

By Alessandro Perilli

After almost two years in stealth mode, one of the most interesting virtualization startup at the moment, Qumranet, launches its first product: a VDI solution called Solid ICE.

Solid ICE is made of a connection broker, but also features a server component which adds resources control capabilities to KVM, and a new remote access protocol, called SPICE, which can be optionally used as replacement for Microsoft RDP.

The connection broker has some interesting capabilities in itself, supporting high availability and exposing a web portal for standard PC clients access which is designed to scale up to thousands of virtual machines. Despite that first version will provide basic capabilities to operate the virtual machine, with enhancements to be released over time.

The new protocol adds further value to Qumranet solution, being designed to deliver on thin clients all those multimedia protocols which usually don't perform well into a terminal services session (an approach which competes with NEC VPCC one).

Last but not least Qumranet took care to support several thin clients on the market, developing a dedicated MiniOS (probably a special purpose Linux distribution).

Solid ICE will support Windows 2000 Professional, Windows XP and Linux as guest OSes, and it's expected to be available before the end of this year.

more at source...

posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 11:10 PM

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# re: SPICE might be an alternative to ICA and RDP? 9/26/2007 9:02 AM Mike Pamphilon
Hi David,

Why not talk about our work at NComputing?

From what I see, and of course where I stand, NComputing is the only true 'virtual presentation layer' solution in the market. Everything else is really some type of cut down thin client.

The inherent and native weakness of any VDI that requires a level of CPU, OS or even RAM, let alone a physical fan at the desktop, is that ongoing management, maintainence and security.

With the NComputing solution we remove these cost and management barriers, be that using Linux as an OS, or any varient of MS.

We have actually just deployed one of the largest, if not the largest, Virtual Desktop solution in the world - Macedonia - providing 180,000 desktops 1-1 computing to students, using Linux.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/Technology/Schools-Eye-Startups-PCSharing-Tech/2007/09/17/1189881412750.html

We've also just been awarded the 2007 Innovation Award for Computing by Wall St Journal.

http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB119040652878435539.html

Some in the US note that we are possibly the most significant advance in computing since the evolution of the PC.

From a technology standpoint, the response we are seeing from clients, resellers, senior technical leaders and advisers is very encouraging.




# re: SPICE might be an alternative to ICA and RDP? 9/26/2007 10:02 AM Dave Caddick
Hi Mike,

I can sort of see where you are coming from, but at the same time I'm still not satisfied with what info I have found (on-line, admittedly) regarding WoIP (Windows over IP) - from what I can "see" so far it's no more than using RDP?

Please let's dig deep to the technical level here and help me understand what's different? If WoIP is not a rehash of RDP then let's get to the bottom of it? I am more than prepared to discuss this in depth at a very technical level with an open mind.

Cheers,
Dave

# re: SPICE might be an alternative to ICA and RDP? 2/12/2008 9:37 AM Dave
As a further update to this I have heard that Microsoft has clarified their licensing around using ANY of their Desktop Products for concurrent multi-user scenarios.

Anyone who seriously wants to consider either NComputing, Miniframe or any other method of using XP SP2 in a multi-user model should seriously check this document from MS before going too far down this path?

Licensing Windows Client Operating System in Multiuser Scenarios
http://download.microsoft.com/download/3/d/4/3d42bdc2-6725-4b29-b75a-a5b04179958b/windows_multi_user.docx

Dave

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