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I became MCAD certified last week - after about 8 months of MSDN/book studying - woo! :)

I don't know if this goes for the rest of the world, but here in the UK, theres a bit of a stigma associated with the MS exams.... "it shows you have memorised the MSDN documentation on subject X, but it doesn't show how good a programmer you are"...

I've heard about all the 10-year olds that have managed to get MCAD, and it is completely true that MCAD certification (or any other Microsoft programming certificate) does not confirm your uber-programmer status. You could have every MS certification under the sun and still know nothing about how to refactor a dodgy bit of code, or how to structure your code well for the best possible re-use.

That said, I definitely believe that there is a lot of value to this MCAD lark. It shows that you know about and have studied key MS technologies. Employ a MCAD programmer and you can be assured that the programmer at least knows about the options for separating a web app over multiple physical tiers, even if they never actually needed to do it before. The word "knows" is emphasized for a reason - that 10 year old kid who got MCAD in 4 weeks for the hell of it is going to know a lot less than the experienced developer that didn't have to do much studying because he/she knew most of the stuff already. I guess that's why theres a stigma - the MCAD doesn't differentiate between the kid and the experienced developer. So, while I think its definitely a good thing to have, its nothing without knowledge, and proven experience in .NET and software engineering in general.

Now, onto the .NET 2 exams... :)

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posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 12:55 PM

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# re: MCAD Certified 12/6/2005 2:22 PM Luke Smith
congratulations. I just passed my 2nd MCP (developing xml webservices and server components) today and I agree that it is just memorising and doesnt prove your a good programmer, but having gone through university it exactly the same there. I've worked with some people whose coding techniques and structure need a lot of work. Wheres the training courses and exams on these?

# re: MCAD Certified 12/7/2005 5:34 AM Matt Roberts
Hi Luke,

Uni taught me something about coding techniques and structure, but not much :( Most of it comes form experience and practice - I leant a lot from writing code I thought was great, and then having to maintain it 2 years later and thinking "why did I do it like that!!!"

# re: MCAD Certified 12/12/2005 3:50 PM John K
Congratultations! I'm taking the dive myself. I'm very glad to see my thoughts echoed here. Becoming certified does NOT mean anything except that you took the time and the effort to study.That said, it'll be a plus on my resume so I'm going through with it.

I'm putting together a blog about my MCAD experience in the hopes that 1).it'll force me to make sure I know what the heck I'm talking about and 2).it'll help some other folks out down the road.

I would appreciate your input on this - would this have helped you 8 months ago when you were starting to study?


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